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31. Posted by U-85 (Budding Member, 12 posts) 10 Dec '11 00:03

Land Cruiser 70-80 series is a very good decision for Russian roads, it's a very common car behind the Ural mountains, and you will not have a problems with service.
Diesel fuel is a widespread all over Russia, in 90's and early 00's it quality was low for new vehicles (f.e. Audi TDI) and Russians didn't prefer to buy a diesel cars, but recent 3-4 years it quality was very improved (fuel plants were modernised and began to produce a low-sulfur diesel). As a result, sells of diesel cars have grown.
You could find a diesel fuel on most of gas stations everywhere in Russia, in emergency case - to buy it in every village or from truckers.

32. Posted by Tsunnami (Budding Member, 28 posts) 29 Dec '11 17:17

Quoting martin_norton17

Hi,

I am also planning a trans-siberian journey, by car.
I was glad to find out useful things about travelling to Russia. My plan was to start from Bucharest to St. Petersburg, travel the TransSiberian, visit major cities and Lake Baikal, and then cross to Alaska and Canada.
I am thinking of a Land Cruiser 78 properly fit, which is diesel.
Can anyone give me some info on the quality and possibility to fing diesel fuel for cars on the TransSiberian?
Thanks!

when d'ya plan it Martin?
you live in bucharest?

33. Posted by Tsunnami (Budding Member, 28 posts) 29 Dec '11 17:27

Quoting U-85

Hey!

I’m receiving messages about new posts in topic on e-mail.

At first, under the word "gas" you meaning gasoline, isn’t it? In Russia is more preferable use words “fuel”, “oil” or the Russian word “benzin” – in other case people could understand that you need a natural gas :)

Mostly, the quality of gasoline in Russia isn’t bad and comparable with European standards –but if you ONLY buy it on brand-name gas stations. The widest chains of gas stations with controlled gas quality are Rosneft, Gazpromneft, LukOil, TNK-BP – it’s all a gas stations of the largest Russian oil companies. Major minus – you will not meet this gas chains behind the Irkoutsk region – all territories that eastern of Irkoutsk have a specific business conditions… But almost in each region you could find a local chain of gas stations with suitable gas quality. Buying a fuel in sole no-name gas stations near a road is not a good idea – you could kill your bike engine.

Most of gas stations sells next types of gas:
Ai-80 – gas only for very old cars and vehicles
Ai-92 – the most common type of gas, suitable almost for every car
Ai-95/96 – premium gas for premium cars
Ai-98 – the most pure gas, some gas chains calls it “Finnish” (probably, it really imported from Finland, but maybe, it’s simply an advertisement) – usually, it price a twice more than Ai-95/96.

Anyway, if you are buying a gas anywhere except brand-name gas stations like a Rosneft or Gazpromneft, your best choice is Ai-92 – with 80% probability you’ll be sure that you are buying true Ai-92 from true fuel plant. In other case, you could receive a fake Ai-95/96, upgraded from Ai-92 or Ai-80 by chemical mixes in nearest basement. About 60% of Ai-95/96, selling in Russia is a fake – there is no such power of all fuel plants in Russia for producing such a lot Ai-95.

U brother you are a gift.

yes i meant gasoline or benzine.
they said that my bike is suitable for low octane if the computer sees it, so, just in case, i plan to test.
next year i will cross ukraine and belarus to go to nordkapp in a by the clock race. just myself and the stopwatch.
what do you think? ukraine is bad enough for fuel quality? belarus?

hey, in the meantime i got a real road atlas in russian from my colleage in sankt petersburg when we met in baden-baden, work related.
i learnt to read., aint that something?
atlas
avtomobilenh
dorog
noveishy

rossia
sopredelanye
gosudarstva
zapadnaia
evropa
azia

am i good or what?

another question.
if i plan to cross bearing sea, is it better magadan or vladivostok? i assume the last choice.

34. Posted by U-85 (Budding Member, 12 posts) 1 Jan '12 10:29

hey! Happy New Year!

it's a 10-days holidays in Russia now :)

I don’t know about fuel quality in Ukraine and Belarus, and couldn’t say anything.. But I think that fuel quality in Belarus should be rather good – quality of almost everything there are government-controlling, and a lot of Russians prefers to buy a Belorussian food and dairy products – it quality is exceptional. Also, Russians that have been in Belorussia, consider that Belorussian roads are the best roads in former USSR-countries. A lot of Russians is visited Eastern Ukraine and Crimea by summer, and often speaks about high-corrupted road police (Russian road police is not a saints too), but as a rule, it don’t concern foreigners from Europe.

Oh, you may be catching like a foreign spy :)

I think that the sole possibility to cross a Bering sea (Pacific Ocean) is a Vladivostok – I’m very doubting that has a regular sea routes between Magadan and Alaska\Canada. From Vladivostok to USA and Canada – hmm, probably it will need a transit stop in Japan.

35. Posted by Tsunnami (Budding Member, 28 posts) 5 Jan '12 16:40

nice to hear from you mate, happy new year.
i am investigating a trip to us/canada from korea. it is a ferry from vladivostock to korea.

wow!
nice knews for belarus. sory i will spend one day only there, ukraine, i will see with the police. i prefer to drive by the limit and have some money aside for them.

enjoy your holidays mate

36. Posted by martin_norton17 (Budding Member, 2 posts) 5 Jan '12 17:35

Quoting Tsunnami

Quoting martin_norton17

Hi,

I am also planning a trans-siberian journey, by car.
I was glad to find out useful things about travelling to Russia. My plan was to start from Bucharest to St. Petersburg, travel the TransSiberian, visit major cities and Lake Baikal, and then cross to Alaska and Canada.
I am thinking of a Land Cruiser 78 properly fit, which is diesel.
Can anyone give me some info on the quality and possibility to fing diesel fuel for cars on the TransSiberian?
Thanks!

when d'ya plan it Martin?
you live in bucharest?

Happy new year!

I am planning to do it this year, maybe in fall.

I still try to figure what the gear I will need because I never done something this expedition like.

I travelled almost all over europe by car, but because of the infrastructure in europe I was not needing planning ahead, except hotels, wich mostly I did it en route.

Also in europe I did not have to think in advance over supply because I could find everything everywhere.

I was glad to find someone that is planing this journey from bucharest.

I am concerned regarding the personal security about this journey, and about saftey hazard that the traveling in those regions would impose.

I am glad to hear from someone with expertize what would be the resonable precautions that I would have to undertake, regarding me and vehicle, to resonably prevent dangerous situation.

From the vehicle perspective I am convinced that an Land Cruiser 76 would probably be best in terms of relyability, with some accesories, like winches, raised suspension, diff locks, auxiliary fuel tank etc.

I live in Bucharest, "wich takes all my time"

Thanks for your replies.

37. Posted by Tsunnami (Budding Member, 28 posts) 6 Jan '12 06:02

maybe at some point we will drink an ursus together mate, heh?

until then, i have a gift for you:
http://www.lemondepourpassager.fr/

even for me siberia is safer in the winter (with a truck like yours)

38. Posted by andyeverywhere (First Time Poster, 1 posts) 29 Apr '12 14:26

Good news:

Basically you can go by motorway pretty much the whole way from London to Vladivostok.

We did it a couple of years ago in a 20 year old wheel chair bus so you don't need a fancy off-road vehicle. (There's plenty of interesting detours to take if you do have one, though...). It's a wonderful journey for many reasons....

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39. Posted by Siberian_wolf (Budding Member, 2 posts) 22 Aug '12 12:16

Hi

I have experience 16 years as a truck driver in siberia :) ... Nothing to worry about that ... It's a beautiful country and I encourage you to go. If you speakenig russian language a bit it is quit for you :)

I will planning journey UK - Magadan - UK on may 2013, so we can meet up there :)

Take care

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