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1. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 5y

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1836) was one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. Principal author of the Declaration of Independence and 3rd President of the US. His quotes are just as timely today as they were over 200 years ago.

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.”

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.”

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

“My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”

2. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 5y

Well, Thomas I like living in corrupt Europe without a gun. So there.

3. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 5y

Quoting magykal1

Well, Thomas I like living in corrupt Europe without a gun. So there.

Well Rob, since Thomas Jefferson is dead, I will try to speak for him. You might take a glance at what was going on in the UK & continental Europe during the 1700s. Kings & Queens ruled Europe and regular citizens had very little say in any part of their lives (think Robin Hood). The King had divine power and could do just about anything he wanted with his subjects. The 'colonies' here in America had to fight a war with Britain to get out from under King George III rule. France was ruled by the monarchy until they started chopping off heads with their guillotine starting in 1792. In Thomas Jefferson's day, he thought Europe was corrupt because the common man had no say in their lives. It took a lot of blood to create the democracy that we now take for granted.

Now guns. The US is one of the only countries that a majority of its citizens are legal gun owners. That is our heritage and I don't see it changing. Our favorite saying on gun ownership is: "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns". No thanks. I prefer an armed citizenry over a country that only the government and criminals have guns. So There.

4. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 5y

Mike, I figured that was what you thought from the original post. I don't agree with either of those things, and we're never going to. You say tomato, I say tomato, and all that ;)