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21. Posted by HDW (Budding Member 10 posts) 11y

Hmm, I love this world I live in, well most times at least. It's just, I have little faith in the people, government, and corporations that run this country, as well as in the people who could change it. We Americans are grown too spoilt! No one wants to get up and change anything! Just look at the difference from today, and Vietnam! It's huge. Because we have adjusted to this "lift no figure" kind of world. I want to live somewhere that I can work and feel like I make a difference, that I'm needed. Not just that I'm paying my bills. And I'd like to know that my kids will have a far better education then I ever recieved!

22. Posted by KCambello (Budding Member 13 posts) 11y

I for one have had a great experience in America. I have gotten a great education and I love my country. I know that my government makes mistakes but they are people and are not perfect and to think that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in other countries is pretty naive. I want to move to England for its beauty not to escape from my home. I have great faith in my country and if you want things to change you have to have faith as well. Nothing will change if you don't have faith that things can change.

23. Posted by HDW (Budding Member 10 posts) 11y

Wow, I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. You're response rather surprised me. I don't want, as you said, to escape my home. I don't want to leave it on account of it's government being messed up. These are just some big aspects of this country I don't like. I'm being asked left and right why I want to move countries. So I thought letting people know the big issues first would make it simpler in the end. So long as I can remember I've had this idea of leaving the country. I'm just mentioning major issues. Lots being political. I'm sorry if I offended you. Or if I lack any display of jingoistic feelings.

However, neither do I want to move somewhere because it's beautiful! There is plenty of beauty here to keep me content. I would rather move for the culture, history, people, and politics. That and it would be nice not to have people jump down my throat just for having a different opinion about this "Land of the Free".

Again, I apologize for our difference in opinions, and my unusually cynical point of view!

24. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

There's an ocean of difference between having faith and taking action. Everyone has their own set of values and their own breaking points. Sometimes we have to find a country whose general outlook on life meshes with our own.

That being said, you'll have to drag me kicking and screaming from Canada. Just kidding! Although I don't think I could ever give up my passport...

25. Posted by KCambello (Budding Member 13 posts) 11y

Yankee, I think I too came off a little harsh and I also want to apologize. I did not mean to attack you. And also I am not just moving to England for its beauty. I know there is a ton of beauty in America, right where I live in fact. I love in Washington State and I think it is one of the most beautiful places in the world. England is just so different and I love things that are different. And old, I love old places. I don't plan on living in England for the rest of my life. In the end I want to be in my home land. I am just a little sensitive when it comes to politics. My dad is in Iraq and I have had a lot of people judge me on that basis. I didn't mean to attack you. I really regreted putting that message up as soon as I did it. So, yeah I am sorry and you are sorry, so we are both sorry. I don't know what came over me and I normally really excepting of others opinions on America and politics. So again I am sorry.:)

26. Posted by HDW (Budding Member 10 posts) 11y

Hey K, no problemo! I understand your bais! My best friend went to Iraq for 14 months and I wanted to kill everyone 'til she got back! I was soooo scared for her! The post is really unreliable in cases like that! I hope your dad is well, and gets home safely! Along with everyone else out there!
Take it easy, and I hope we do better in future conversations! :)

27. Posted by DonnaDoo (First Time Poster 1 posts) 11y

[I asked about the way the English felt about Americans because when I went there it seemed like a lot of people hated the fact that I was even visiting.]

The thing about some people didn't like the fact that you're American is always hurtful, but unfortunately, that's how it is for all of us. In any part of Europe, there will be someone who does not like the fact that you are irrevocably an American, born and raised. A lot of this is due to the fact that somebody somewhere has given them a bad impression. It's a lot like when you've never met a Russian, and all you've heard about is how horrible and restrictive the Soviet Union was. You don't mean to be hateful, but you have to get over any previous prejudices to get to the root of the person, not just their nationality; it's something that's found all over the place and everyone has to deal with it at some point.
However, when you go a little bit further than the typical destinations... you get to know the real opinions, and most of them are just really friendly people who love to meet and greet and chat away. If you moved there, it would be different than the people you meet on a vacation b/c you're actually a part of their life then, just like friends in America.

28. Posted by KCambello (Budding Member 13 posts) 11y

Yeah we Americans can suck sometimes. But what can I say. I love my country and I love England. I am actually having second thought about moving over seas. I would miss my family to much. I will have to keep thinking it over I guess.:)

29. Posted by HDW (Budding Member 10 posts) 11y

For many I think this need to travel is more than just an interest, or any kind of dislike or love for any country or people. Sometimes it's deeper. I've just finished a book that had this sentence near the end, and it just sort of caught me.
"...has talked of travel with a kind of hunger that comes only to those who were born in a place other than that inwhich they will die."
It says so many things, with so few words. And so many lives could be described within that sentence. So many beginnings and endings, started by our simple hunger to see other worlds, and make them apart of ourselves. For many England is that other world. Or Africa, China, and Spain. Wherever your heart leads you. I don't believe we need to have a reason. It may even be asking too much.

30. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Hi Yankeeborn...I have to say I just love that statement off of the book you just finished reading. I can relate to it immensely because I have always wondered where my love and hunger to see other places and meet other people comes from and I have always said I wouldnt die in Peru (my country) or here (my second home and country). Of course if I can help it.

That statement could have only come from someone with a deep interest in learning from other people, cultures and countries, one that is constantly searching for "the ultimate place"...I am personally still looking for that but I dont think I will ever find it. I am just waiting to see where my life may take me down the road. There is so much to see in this world that it would take more than a lifetime to accomplish...we can only try to do our best to learn from one another and to share a bit of ourselves. So thanks for sharing!!

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