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Tibet or not to Tibet...

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1. Posted by SKR (Full Member 47 posts) 11y

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I'm wondering what the general consensus on Tibet is - I've heard from some people that it is absolutely the highlight of any trip to China. Others, however, say that it's an expense that would be better spent in China 'proper' (for lack of a better term - I dont mean to get into a debate on China's occupation of/reunification with Tibet :) ) and that it doesn't live up to the hype. I plan to spend most of my time in Sichuan and Yunnan provinces (4 weeks, with maybe some of that time in Guizhou and Guanxi ??) so would appreciate any views on whether I should make the trip from Chengdu to Tibet, or if I should concentrate my time and money in Yunnan / Sichuan.

Thanks!
Simon

2. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

There's nothing really mystical about Tibet. It's much the same as other Chinese towns. In Yunnan; go to Dali, Lijiang and Zhongdian (Shangri La). The last one is in the Tibetan prefecture of Yunnan Province. You'll get a taste of Tibet there.

3. Posted by stevieh (Respected Member 611 posts) 11y

Hi Simon,
Tibet is a place I want to visit, but mainly because I have a deep interest in the Himalayan region. If this and/or mountains are not your thing, then you're probably best to avoid it.
I've not been myself, but have seen on TV and heard from friends that Lhasa is, as Wocca said, much like other Chinese towns, which is a terrible shame if you've ever read anything about what it used to be like. If you're a trekker, then you might be more interested in a walk through the mountains, which are among the best in the world, and judging by recent news, perhaps safer now than Nepal.

4. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 11y

Well, I can see both of you are from Britain, ask yourself, does any European want to go back to the middle age? If your answer is no, you should how how Tibetant people think of their situations. Who wants no education or no civilization? Western people are romancizing Tibet, and nobody has a clue what China have brought to them.

5. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 11y

Well, I can see both of you are from Britain, ask yourself, does any European want to go back to the middle age? If your answer is no, you should how how Tibetant people think of their situations. Who wants no education or no civilization? Western people are romancizing Tibet, without realizing what China has brought to them.

6. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 11y

Well, I can see both of you are from Britain, ask yourself, does any European want to go back to the middle age? If your answer is no, you should how how Tibetant people think of their situations. Who wants no education or no civilization? Western people are romancizing Tibet, without realizing what China has brought to them.

7. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 11y

Well, I can see both of you are from Britain, ask yourself, does any European want to go back to the middle age? If your answer is no, you should how how Tibetant people think of their situations. Who wants no education or no civilization? Western people are romancizing Tibet, without realizing what China has brought to them.

8. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 11y

You guys are romancizing Tibet. I see you are from the Britain, ask yourself, does any european want to go back to the middle ages? I guess the answer should be no. Tibetan people cannot sacrifice for your fantasy, they should get education like we do, they shouldn't be worried about someday their necks would be cut off by their slave lord. Unfortunately, nobody cares what China has brought to Tibet and how Chinese government contributes to them and how Tibetan people has been benefiting from it.

9. Posted by Zhou (Full Member 126 posts) 11y

orienteyec, let`s not put it in this way:"what China has brought to Tibet". I can fully understand you, but that may be more misleading psychologically to non-Chinese.;) "It's much the same as OTHER Chinese towns" sounds more comfortable in this case.Right?

10. Posted by SKR (Full Member 47 posts) 11y

Orienteyec, you're right that in 'the West' there has been a lot of romanticising of Tibet and that people may have expectations of it being largely untouched by modernity. Nobody however expects the Tibetan or any other people to forego "development" for the sake of travellers who wish to see a way of life different from their own - providing, of course, that "development" is what they want.

The only reason I questioned my going to Tibet is because it will consume a fair amount of the funds i've allocated to my time in China and it would also take up about 20% of my time.

Stevieh and Wocca, thanks for your advice - i'm no serious trekker or mountaineer and I dont really have an interest in the Himalayas so I might so how I feel when in Chengdu.