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How do I satisfy both our needs for a holiday?

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1. Posted by jimmybee80 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

After 5 years of marriage, my wife and I still can't agree on a holiday. I am a bit of an adrenaline junkie (PADI Scuba Instructor, Rock Climbing enthusiast) and like to experience these tpyes of things when I go away.

My lovely wife on the other hand, prefers a more relaxing type of holiday, in luxurious locations with spas, cultural experiences etc.

So far it seems to end up that only one of us gets what they want out of a holiday - which is supposed to be the highlight of each year. We both work hard and feel that neither of us should have to compromise/sacrifice our happiness in this area....

We can't be other only ones....does anyone else have this problem? If so, how do you get around it?

Please help!

2. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 2012 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

I think you both just need to compromise a little. Why don't you both spend one week together in a relaxing location, and then go your separate ways for the second week.

There are cruise ships that have rock climbing walls as well as beauty spas.

[ Edit: Edited on 14-Jul-2011, at 11:06 by Daawgon ]

3. Posted by jimmybee80 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

Do you know of a travel agent that specialises in putting this type of thing together? we really want to get it right next time so are seriously considering getting some professional advice.

Thank you for yours :)

4. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 2012 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

I've had much better luck planning my own trips, and finding a good agent is not an easy task!

5. Posted by jimmybee80 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

I don't know where to start- what makes a good agent versus a bad agent?

6. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 2012 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

By Christopher Elliott

Who needs a travel agent anymore?

Fewer of us do, apparently. Just eight years ago, there were 124,030 travel agents in the United States, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. By 2006, that number had fallen by about 30 percent, to 87,600 agents.

"They are an outdated remnant of past practices that add virtually no value to any transaction today," says Bill Clements, who works for an airline in Michigan. .

After recommending travel agents in recent columns, every week I seem to be on the receiving end of an angry anti- travel agent missive that starts with, "How could you?"

So let me talk about how I could.

Why do I still like agents? A competent travel adviser can be your greatest asset when you're planning a trip. The key word here is "competent." And let me also define what I mean by agent: I'm not necessarily talking about an offshore call center worker reading from a script or a hobbyist who paid a few hundred bucks for bogus agency credentials.

I mean a bona fide, certified travel professional.

It's not a popular position to take. I know. There's no shortage of horrific travel agent stories making the rounds these days. I have a stack of grievances that follow the same basic narrative. It goes something like this:

I booked a trip through online agency X. Something went wrong — my flight was rescheduled or there was a problem with the hotel reservation. When I phoned the company, I was transferred to a half-dozen departments and ended up speaking with someone in Bangalore whom I could barely understand. Five hours later, I'm no closer to fixing the problem. Help!

Let me take a moment to say I mean no disrespect to online travel agencies. Most of the airline seats, cruises and hotel rooms booked through these large sites are problem-free. It's the way they address the inevitable problems that leaves something to be desired in the view of many readers.

The other side of this equation is do-it-yourselfers — people who have paid hundreds or thousands of dollars to become "instant" travel agents. These amateurs give other agents a bad name largely because they're untrained. They've just paid someone for a card that says they're real travel agents. But even after weeding out the phonies and dot-comers, you're still left with a group of agents that can be less than perfect.

Bob Barstow, a longtime reader of my columns, has had his run-ins with well-trained, legitimate travel agents that left him disappointed. He says he's never experienced the "go-the-extra-mile" attitude for which these trained professionals are supposedly known. "You imply that the business is full of agents dedicated to the travelers' well-being, and will go out of their way for their customer," he told me. "I have yet to meet this agent."

To Barstow and others, let me say: You need to find a good agent. Here are a few tips:

1. Look for certification.

If the agent is a member of the American Society of Travel Agents (ASTA,, that's a promising sign. ASTA is the world's largest association of travel professionals, with a code of ethics that tends to keep the riff-raff out. If your travel adviser is certified by The Travel Institute (, which offers courses on various destinations and travel specialties, that's a bonus. Another membership worth looking for is the Association of Retail Travel Agents ( Affiliation with a large organization like AAA or a company such as Carlson Wagonlit can be evidence that your agent is on the up-and-up. Your agent should also comply with any state seller of travel laws and carry error and omission insurance.

2. Stay local.

There's no substitute for the personal touch. My best experiences with agents have been one-on-one. The ability to meet — to look the agent in the eye, to shake his or her hand — is something online agencies can't match. (Note: not all agents work in an office, but home-based agents can and do make personal visits.) The only exception to this rule is if you're looking for an agent with a sought-after specialty. But even then, a trusted voice on the phone is preferable to the often unintelligible, script-reading customer service associate you're connected to when dealing with a large agency.

3. Interview the agent.

Don't pick the first agent you find. Talk to the travel pro. Find out how long he or she has been in business. Ask about fees (yes, they charge booking fees, but they're worth it if you get into a pinch). I would recommend conducting the interview in person. Pay close attention not only to the way your prospective agent responds, but also at what's going on in the office around you. Are the other agents taking the time to talk with customers, or do they only seem interested in pressuring their clients to make a booking decision? If you don't like what you see, move on.

4. Pressure check The only way to know for certain if your travel agent is a keeper is to see what happens when you run into trouble. And you will have that opportunity, eventually. When your flight is delayed or your hotel is overbooked or your travel insurance claim isn't being honored, what will your agent do? See, agents are compensated for the booking — either with a fee you pay or a commission they take directly from the company. If they leave you hanging or do nothing more than send you the company's 800-number, they're not your agent. Chances are, they're just in it for the commission.

Good travel agents have an edge over almost any other seller of travel. They know what you want. They speak your language. And they're there for you when you run into trouble.

In other words, travel agents aren't obsolete. Only the bad ones are.

Christopher Elliott is the ombudsman for National Geographic Traveler magazine.

(copied from the Seattle Times)

7. Posted by Cyberia (Travel Guru 1841 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

jimmybee80. I think you need to spend days apart and nights together. What you need is a nice resort somewhere on the coast where in the day time your wife can relax, maybe do a bit of shopping while you are out and about, doing your thing. A lot of coastal resorts do have diving schools and mountians nearby.

8. Posted by mcphersonsammy (Budding Member 40 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

Going to the beach would be perfect for both of you. You can go diving while she can stay at the hotel's spa and relax. I think that would be great. Or maybe you could divide the itinerary according to your interests. A day for adventure and a day of relaxation.