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1. Posted by BigWilly885 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 5y

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to puzzle out a solution to a potential issue I might run into, and hoped people on this forum more knowledgable than myself about visas could help me out.

Here's the situation:

I'm an American, residing in America, and have applied to several Master's degree programs in Spain (directly to Spanish universities, not through an American university's programs). I will not be told If I'm even admitted or not until September 17th at the earliest for the three Universities I applied to. The university that notifies me on September 17th also begins its courses on September 26th which, of course, is not sufficient time to apply for and receive a student visa. The other university notifies me on September 19th, and beings October 17th, which does allow enough time, so this situation only occurs in attending the first university.

Anyway, how I at least hoped to solve the issue in the case of attending the first university was this:

As I understand it, Americans are permitted a maximum of 90 days without a visa in the Schengen zone within a 180 period, starting from the first date of entry. I entered the zone (in Spain) on June 1st and stayed until June 15th, at which point I returned to the US. If I re-entered a day or so before the 26th of September (let's say the 24th), and stayed up through the 24th of November (61 days, + 15 in June for a total of 76 in the Schengen area) and then left the Schengen zone, returning on November 29th (181 days since June 1), would I then have another 90 days within a new 180 day period which begins on the 29th, or am I mistaken?

And outside of that, are there any other options that I'm just not aware of? Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated.

2. Posted by mpprh (Full Member 114 posts) 5y

I would enquire at the university. it must arise every year ?


3. Posted by WomBatt (Full Member 132 posts) 5y

No, you are mistaken and wishful thinking. You are allowed 90 days in Schengen treaty countries and no return for 90 days.

As simple as I can make it - from day 1 the clock starts ticking toward 180 days. If you exit a Schengen treaty country the clock stops and restarts again when you re-enter.

4. Posted by morro (Full Member 102 posts) 5y

To put it even simpler that that - you are only allowed to be in the Schengen area for 90 out of ANY 180 days. So basically, the 180 day period floats. You can't enter January 1st and stay to January 31st and then come back June 1st and stay through September 30th.

This is a pretty stupid rule and makes it very difficult for people entering and existing Europe on a frequent basis but they are the rules.

[ Edit: Edited on 06-Sep-2011, at 04:23 by morro ]