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31. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

Quoting Gelli

It seems to me that most of those who recommend the i-pod are Apple devotees in general, so I'm not sure if I trust them.

I'm not saying that they aren't good/great, but your right in that alot of Ipod recomendees are either Apple or, urm, "Fashion" (all the hip and cool people want or have one) devotees.

I guess all of this makes me a dishonest hip cool person now huh ? Oh well, I've been called worse

In all honesty though, I have seen the ipod lose out in a few comparison tests, although those are always debatable since everyone is looking for someone else. If you are looking for the longest battery life available, then the ipod probably isn't for you. That battery life of gelli's machine would kick it's b*tt....

[ Edit: typo... ]

32. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Have just been checking out Sony NW-HD3 - that looks pretty good actually. Not as aesthetically pleasing as the i-pod, it's true, but I could get over that I think. ;) 30 hours battery life is pretty impressive. Will definitely consider it.

Thanks for the tips guys,

Ev;)

33. Posted by floridaade (Full Member 24 posts) 11y

I think the thing to take note of regarding the iPod, and this is a plain fact (not the random bleating of a throthing at the mouth Apple fascist!), bar NONE, the iPod has more accessories, plug ins, support, after market services and users than any digital music player on the planet. The battery life issue has been somewhat sorted out on the latest model too. It all boils down to how much money you have. Later in the year I'll be getting the 60GB iPod. Absolutely no contest !

I've dug out some sites around the web that may give you a better overview of what the choices are OK. Remember that Windows Media files wont work on the iPod, Apple iTunes tracks wont work on Windows players in standard format either so you may want to take this into consideration.

There is a very simple work around that enables you to play iTunes downloads on ANY portable that plays MP3 (and thats all of them now that Sony have wised up!).

http://everythingipod.com/
http://www.ipodlounge.com/
http://www.ipodhacks.com/
http://playlistmag.com/
http://www.dapdb.com/ Side by side feature comparison
http://www.dapreview.net/news.php
http://portableaudio.engadget.com/
http://www.ipodlounge.com/sitenews_comments.php?id=6799_0_2_0_C Downloadable PDF magazine
http://portables.about.com/
http://reviews.cnet.com/Music/4520-7964_7-5134106-1.html?tag=dir.bg

Ade

34. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

THANKS!!

35. Posted by floridaade (Full Member 24 posts) 11y

Nearly forgot, how to get iTunes tracks to work on any portable MP3 player? Not very geeky at all, a bit of a pain perhaps but...Tracks in the iTunes store are encoded using Apple's variation on AAC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

All you have to do is burn the purchased downloads onto CD as Wavs then rip them back off the CD as MP3's, though this removes not only the DRM but the ID3 tags so you'll have to retype in the track names. Not sure if thats too much of a pain, but if you want to use the iTunes store and dont have an iPod and want your music on the go, there it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management
http://www.methodshop.com/mp3/

Ade

36. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

After a week or so of deliberation, i've just ordered a Sony NWHD3 20GB player. I should have it by the weekend so if you are on the hunt for an MP3 player check this thread next week sometime and, hopefully, i will have got to grips with it and i will write a little review.

37. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Yeah, I'm leaning towards that one myself Dave. So, I'll be interested to see what you think of it. Keep me posted! :)

Ev

38. Posted by floridaade (Full Member 24 posts) 11y

Now here's the 'problem' with the Sony player, it wont play downloads from Napster or any of the Windows formatted download stores. As far as I know it'll only support Sony's proprietory ATRAC 3 format and MP3 which kind of limits you to Sony's own Connect download store, also Sony's clunky SonicStage3 management software has come in for some stick. I'm actually casting my eye at the latest Toshiba Gigabeat 60GB, instead of the iPod.

Ade

http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1290
http://musicstore.connect.com/

39. Posted by floridaade (Full Member 24 posts) 11y

Well you can ignore that last comment I made about the Sony not playing Windows media files, as the very latest (released next month) version now does. Apologies for any confusion, these updates seem to happen every month !

New One http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000550038938/ NW-HD5
Old one http://www.i4u.com/article2511.html NW-HD3

Ade

40. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

Quoting floridaade

Well you can ignore that last comment I made about the Sony not playing Windows media files, as the very latest (released next month) version now does. Apologies for any confusion, these updates seem to happen every month !

New One http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000550038938/ NW-HD5
Old one http://www.i4u.com/article2511.html NW-HD3

Ade

I've just brought the NWHD3. Music i have in MP3 format transfers very easily and quickly. However, most of my cd's i saved in WMA format and it doesn't support that. I've now got to convert it to MP3. Do you know any decent software that can do this??