Hi Volontour, we don't mind if Workaway responds here. As David says, they do have a right of reply when concerns are raised. I actually think the non-disclosure in the Bush Hunter post is an honest mistake on their part and am glad they are now posting as themselves again. These responses should be encouraged in the interest of transparency.
Wow what a rip off organization. Looks like all they have done is copy a well established model of helpx.net which is a free service and added a charge of 22 euro.
P.S and if you didn't know, which Im sure Workaway does, FB likes can be manipulated. facebook likes manipulation article
[ Edit: Edited on 12-Nov-2012, at 13:53 by Dodger ]
Shady business man? Have no morals..?? This is being to feel like online bullying!!!
Quite an accusation … yet you only have 3 posts yourself ..all on this thread… There is something very fishy going on here!!
It has been proved to you without doubt the site works .
I offered to help you personally find a volunteering position. .. and help you with your profile.
Need more proof.. ???? Search for workaway on Twitter and see all sorts of messages and ramblings from people Workawaying, or about to.. all independent , all completely out of our control.
Regarding your other points you can be rest assured we are constantly working hard to improve the site.
Dodger… We started the same year as Helpx.. and we think they ´re great too…Also we love wwoof… we have a link to them off our front page and Fb manipulation?? I give up!!
I´m bowing out of this one . We´re proud of what we´ve done with Workaway.
Peter, I wish I were as optimistic as you are that Bush hunter posted honestly, but the fact that he said "workaway promoting themselves" and not "ourselves" makes me think this is not the case.
Dodger, I didn't know about buying facebook likes, or anything about helpx.net. Thanks for both of those.
David, what else can I say but...adios.
I haven't heard of Workaway before but have just had a look at the site; it looks like a very professional outfit and a great concept - keep up the good work David and co!
I was brought to this thread via my Google Analytics results for the week. I was curious as to what sort of referrals were coming from travellerspoint to my blog (westcoastnomads.com) and why.
I just joined travellerspoint, so I could reply to this thread.
First thing, I'm not affiliated with Workaway other than having used them. However, I have referred heaps of friends and strangers to use Workaway, as I find it more varied than WWOOF. I also want to make sure people don't get the wrong opinion about my blog: the words are my own.
I'm just an independent backpacker, who wanted to save some cash, while traveling Europe/India/Asia. To me, Workaway is an awesome tool for us to beat down the priciest travel costs.
I agree that some hosts do not reply and others take their sweet time in responding to inquiries.
Maybe Workaway should impose some sort of general response rule or create a 'reminder' system for the host, flagging them on messages that haven't been directly responded to. A lot of traveler's need semi-fast responses, as they are pretty much living/traveling on the fly.
Also, it'd be cool if Workaway also forced communication (emails) to flow through Workaway, so that they are properly tracked. I was meant to do a workaway with a host in Northern France. I had contacted him via Workaway; the notice was sent from workaway to my email, so we ended up confirming everything outside of the site. Unfortunately, I found out 2 months before touchdown that the host didn't receive my 'confirmation' email. I did have a copy of it in my sent items. Boo!
So, yes, there's some bugs to work out--and I'm hoping as Workaway grows, they'll get to them.
But, hey -- let's give them some slack. They are new. WWOOF has been around for a billion years; they have had a lot of opportunities to work out their kinks. And, I remember not hearing back from WWOOF hosts when I CALLED them and left voice messages on their personal landlines.
Anyway, for some random person to start claiming that Workaway is a fraud is completely ludicrous. I'm shocked. Workaway is legit. I've used them. My friends have used them (http://globalbirdsofpassage.blogspot.ca/) and I've met other travelers who are also using them.
That's just my 2 cents.
I[/we] have been a workaway host since April 2012. We also have a listing for wwoof.
So that you know how it works for us this is it.
We were receiving on average 4 enquiries per day for most of the summer, sometimes more. Many of the applicants do not read the profile and make assumptions that are not the case. If you do not read the profile properly you will be ignored. This is simply because I would assume you are not interested in what we have written and will therefore not be interested in us when you get here. This has been born out in practice many times. [/s]
Sometimes there are so many enquiries that we do not reply to them all. We do not have the time spare especially when we have hosted up to 6 volunteers at a time.
Sometimes volunteers do not like us ... they leave. sometimes we cannot communicate with them because there is a language problem... they leave.
If you write to us asking about exact details. as if it was to form a contract you will be ignored. If you ask about the projects that are coming up or about progress it shows interest.
Not all hosts offer the same kind of experience!
We have hosted about 40 people this year. about 30 we would love to see again.
we will still do the same next year.
The site is real and as far as I can see brilliant. However this is not true of all people
That is my 2 cents worth.
Thanks for your responses jill and chris. I've taken a break from this thread as it left a bad taste in my mouth. I am certainly not proud of some of my responses, hopefully we can set a better tone from here on out.
Jill I perused your blog a bit and it seems workaway has its own button on your site. Do you mind if I ask why this is the case? Also the blog entry about workaway does have the ring of a bit of a plug to it. There is also not much info about who you are, pics, brief bio etc. on your blog. I understand the want for privacy but a blog is not usually the activity of the very private. Forgive me for seeming suspicious but if you re-read some of the earlier posts on this thread the need for complete transparency becomes obvious.
Chris, how did you happen upon this thread, if you don't mind my asking? It would seem very coincidental indeed that a non-member happened to land here within days of the last posting. Can you provide any verifiable info as to your farm's location and affiliation with workaway? Thanks in advance.
I will also chalk it up to coincidence that you two signed off in exactly the same way.
I thank you two for your contributions but I must now firmly repeat my request that all subsequent posts (other than clarification from jill and chris) come from established forum members.
Established forum members like yourself, voluntour?
Your questions look like nitpicking to keep a lapsed subject live. Give it up - the job is done : lots of readers will be wary when considering using that service. It now seems your goal is to keep this live on the forum by any means in order to bump the subject up to the top again. That becomes tedious to readers. Leaven it with some contribution on other subjects and you may get away with it as, in your own words, an "established forum user".
Happy 2013 :-)