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11. Posted by -reece- (Travel Guru, 1368 posts) 7 Dec '11 07:41

Blimey that name brings back some memories.

Doesnt sound good for him

12. Posted by Hien (Moderator, 3906 posts) 7 Dec '11 09:22

I hope he's okay.

13. Posted by james (Travel Guru, 4122 posts) 8 Dec '11 14:01

Just a bit of background from today's local (Sydney) news...

14. Posted by Isadora (Moderator, 13924 posts) 9 Dec '11 06:47

I received about 90% of the article's information yesterday morning from a few contacts in that area of the Philippines. It included the ban on the media, which they found very unusual, and some alleged eye witness accounts about the shooting. The only thing that was not mentioned was Warren's possession of a weapon for protection nor the earlier meeting with officials about the safety of foreigners. The rest was almost verbatim to the newspaper story.

Since the information was hearsay at that time, I didn't post any of it. I didn't wish to be 'spreading rumors' that may not have been factual. Seems, in reality, the contacts were correct.

Wocca's refusal of outside protection and arming himself doesn't surprise me either. But, there's going to be more to this story. When someone sleeps with a loaded weapon under their pillow, they usually believe there's eminent danger. Some of us also know he was one who didn't always know when to keep a low profile.

Still let's hope he's found alive and returned to his family.

15. Posted by james (Travel Guru, 4122 posts) 11 Dec '11 14:12

I see where you're coming from Isa, however media reports of keeping a loaded gun and refusing protection may just be that; media reports. Or it could be that keeping a loaded gun is quite common in those parts. Who knows? But yes, it's an interesting story all the same.

16. Posted by Peter (Admin, 5355 posts) 11 Dec '11 15:20

Since the information was hearsay at that time, I didn't post any of it. I didn't wish to be 'spreading rumors' that may not have been factual. Seems, in reality, the contacts were correct.

Or maybe the media just aren't as conscientious as you are Isa. They probably had similar contacts letting them know and they just went ahead and published it.

I had someone form near that area comment on G+ about this and he said he couldn't really understand why any foreigner would voluntary head into those areas since it's known to be very dangerous. If someone was mad enough to go, it seems sensible for them to have a loaded gun ready.

17. Posted by Isadora (Moderator, 13924 posts) 12 Dec '11 04:34

I saw the comments to your post on G+, Peter. And, to both James and you, you're probably correct about the media. I was just a bit surprised at the last story link James posted was almost identical to what was told to me.

And, I shouldn't be surprised at the loaded gun under the pillow. I think about it now and realize that most of farmers around here have loaded weapons somewhere in their homes. Hell, when 2 stray dogs tried attacking our goat and I called animal control, I was told to take my gun and shoot at them. I don't own a gun! Illinois is currently debating the right for people to carry concealed handguns.

But yes, I was also told that area was very dangerous too. It was compared to America's wild west in the 1800s where law enforcement was iffy at best in many places. It was stated that police/military rarely show up when called.

18. Posted by james (Travel Guru, 4122 posts) 18 Dec '11 13:53

An update from today's Sydney Morning Herald.

19. Posted by Peter (Admin, 5355 posts) 18 Dec '11 15:50

Yeah, that doesn't look good at all :(

20. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin, 5572 posts) 19 Dec '11 01:22

So terrible! I'm guessing the Australian government's stance in this area is not to negotiate with kidnappers either?