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11. Posted by nickhikesevery (First Time Poster, 1 posts) 12 Jan '12 05:27

I am currently living in Munich and I would say two days here you can see everything that you want to see here there is a lot of fun things like the old town hall. the castle that cinderalls castle is based upon. If you are interesteed in learning more about the hollicost. But mostly Munich is about beer brats and bread. That is what you come to Munich for and it is a wonderful time. -snip-

[ Edit: Sorry, no promos please. ]

12. Posted by leodollar (Budding Member, 16 posts) 12 Jan '12 10:30

@ReganasaurusRex- I agree with your last sentence that trip planning is fun. I have planned this for 12 years ☺ and for your inputs: thank you!!! THANK you!!! thank YOU!!! THANK YOU

@ ALL- SORRY FOR PROLONGING THIS POST!!!!

After your GREAT inputs I have come up with 3 Route Options:

OPTION 1:
LONDON 4 days 1 day
BERLIN 3 days
KRAKOW 3 days
ATHENS 4 days
ROME 4 days
FLORENCE 3 days
VENICE 3 days
MILAN 2 days
BARCELONA 4 days
MADRID 4 days
LISBON 3 days
PARIS 5 days
LONDON 1 day 43 days

OPTION 2:
LONDON 4 days 1 day
BERLIN 3 days
MUNICH 2 days
KRAKOW 3 days
ATHENS 4 days
ROME 4 days
FLORENCE 3 days
VENICE 3 days
BARCELONA 4 days
MADRID 4 days
LISBON 3 days
PARIS 5 days
LONDON 1 day 43 days

OPTION 3:
LONDON 4 days 1 day
BERLIN 3 days
KRAKOW 3 days
ATHENS 4 days
ROME 4 days
FLORENCE 3 days
VENICE 3 days
BARCELONA 4 days
MADRID 4 days
MARRAKECH 4 days
LISBON 3 days
PARIS 5 days
LONDON 1 day 45 Days

Out of the 3 options, my heart is set for the 3rd one. Though some barriers are on the way such as the need to be more on a set schedule for flying, budget (I set $3500 USD for this trip), and this option is marked in 45 days on the dot (Not allowing room for delays or detours that might occur)

The travel period also changed. It will be now from May 14th- June 27th.

Option 1 and 2 differ in cities ( Option 1 being Milan- Option 2 being Munich). If I were to opt between these 2 options, would you favor Milan or Munich?

As always, thank you for the feedbacks, and encouragements.

Best, Leo

13. Posted by The Tipsy Gipsy (Respected Member, 34 posts) 12 Jan '12 17:22

The 3rd option is great, Marrakesh is amazing but I guess you need to recognise your limits, its hard not to get to 'big' and all that does is put pressure on yourself so you are right in that you might be best to give yourself the extra days spare in case you have delays or really like a place and you can stay on.

I haven't actually been to Milan, but I have been to Munich. Munich is great and very different to Berlin so it would be interesting to see both, Munich being more typical of our stereotyped view of Germany, the Bavarian with the ledorhosen and steins of beer. Its a great place to have a beer and a pretzel and a pork knuckle.
As @nickhikesevery said, there is a pretty amazing castle as a day trip out of Munich called Neuschwanstein or King Ludwig's castle, they modelled the Disney castle off it.
Munich is the birthplace of Nazism, well referred to as such historically which also might be of interest to you historically.

Milan would be good too, you can do trips from there to Lake Como etc. But as far as I know it won't compare to Venice, Florence or Rome but maybe someone else might have more insight. Saying that I can't fault Italy, there is no where in that country that I wouldn't go or that's not beautiful. I think it is potentially quite expensive around Milan as well so you might look into accommodation prices etc. to help sway you wither way.

If you go with option one, look at flights to Athens from both Munich and Krakow because you could swap that order depending on flight costs. I know you can get a train, an overnighter i think, from Berlin to Krakow via Warsaw and then the train on through Poland to Munich. So if it's cheaper to use a German airline or a Polish airline. Just a thought. Polish trains are slow but an overnighter will save you a nights accommodation as well.

Good luck deciding.

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15. Posted by morro (Full Member, 102 posts) 13 Jan '12 16:21

You are so easily swayed Leo. I think you should include South Sudan too

I will just add my two cents. Think about the feasibility of this trip. I think there is way too much flying which forces you onto a set schedule. Log on to skyscanner and check out the ticket prices. All these flights could end up costing more than $500. Your budget is good for 45 days but again, estimate the cost of all these flights and then look at your budget again.

In my opinion, four days in Athens is way too long unless you are planning on two or three day trips. Athens can easily be done in a day or a day and a half max. I would personally cut it out. Four days in Madrid is also excessive. I think two will be sufficient. I haven't been to Marrakech but once again, it seems to be out of your way to get to. Best leave it to another trip.

If it were me, I would reconsider Athens, Munich and would consider cities like Prague and Budapest. I would cut out Athens and Marrakech. This would allow a very flexible schedule and small travel days (except from Italy to Spain). You can break it up with a couple of days in Nice (which has nice pebbly beaches and naked people).

These are the guidelines I use when I am trying to determine number of days per city:
- 4 days large cities (London, Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Berlin etc)
- 3 days medium cities (Prague, Budapest, Florence, Lisbon, Krakow etc)
- 2 days smaller cities (Amsterdam, Madrid, Brugges, Venice etc)
- 1 day - never - unless it is a stopover to break up a long journey

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!

16. Posted by TuscanTravel (Budding Member, 6 posts) 27 Jan '12 00:21

Rome (5 days)
Venice (2 days)
Florence (2 days)

Hi! I suggest you cut some days in Rome and add them to other places to make the most of Italy/Tuscany. One of our trips is divided like that: three days in Rome (inter alia Vatican Museums, Coliseum, Roman Forum, St. Peter’s Basilica, Villa Borghese; Tivoli or Frascati). Day four - you take the Freccia Rossa fast train to Florence. One day for sightseeing, maybe day in the Brunello kingdom. Maybe Turin? From there you can go to Venice (Freccia rossa train, 5 hours). That's one of the many possibilities. Have fun!

17. Posted by leodollar (Budding Member, 16 posts) 30 Jan '12 06:54

@nickhikesevery- Thank you so much

@morro- Thank you for your input. Not that I am easily influenced, yet I trust there are more experienced Europe travelers in this fórum than me. And, I trust your judgements. I thank you for your inputs. I liked very much the break down of the # of days in each places (Large, médium, small cities). My question is: the stays are including the commute to these places? I also agree that flying would be a “set trip” which I dont want that to be.

@TuscanTravel- Thank you so much

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