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1. Posted by gdickson16 (Budding Member 13 posts) 2y

My girlfriend and I are planning a huge European adventure, with the attempt to hit most countries.
Countries we won't be seeing (Lithuania, Latvia, Armenia, Estonia, Russia, Azerbaijan, Cyprus)
Countries we may or may not see (Norway, Sweden, Finland)

We will be arriving in Dublin on January 16th, 2013 (yes I know a long way away, but we are excited) and basically traveling until we can no longer do it. We are hoping to last into the beginning of October, as we want to be in Munich of Oktoberfest.

So far what we have planned is the following:

January 16-March 19: U.K. and Ireland (2.5 weeks in Dublin, 1.5 to start and 1 to end with St. Patty's Day in Dublin)

March 19-First week of May: N. France, N. Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, possibly Scandinavia, Poland, Ukraine, Hungary, Bulgaria

May-Beginning of September: Turkey, Greece, Former Yugoslavia (definitely Croatia and Albania, possibly Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia), Italy, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, S. France

September-October: Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic, S. Germany

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice based on this. Seems difficult to plan a trip of this magnitude.
But any suggestions on how to go about it (itinerary changes, days to spend in each country, whether to stay more nights in one city of a country, or try multiple cities -- (eg. 4 nights in the Netherlands --> spend all in Amsterdam or hit up Rotterdam for a night as well), how best to route the countries by rail or is a flight necessary).

It seems like a lot to help, but any advice, even if for one country would be greatly appreciated.
Leave a link to your blog if you have one and I'll be sure to subscribe.

Thanks.

2. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4428 posts) 2y

Where are you from? Unless you plan to spend a really long amount of time in the Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey, former Yugoslavia, and Morocco, I fear you're going to run afoul of the "maximum of 90 days in any given 180 day period" rule of the Schengen Visa, and will need to seriously alter your plans (at the very least shift the two months in the UK and Ireland to the middle of the trip).

That is, if you're in the Schengen Zone (effectively though not quite equivalent to the mainland EU) as a non-EU citizen, you're probably there under the terms of the Schengen Visa, which specifies that you're only allowed to be there 50% of any given time period, with a maximum continuous stay of 90 days. And because of that "any given time period", this doesn't "reset" when you leave the Schengen Zone, but the 180 days time period works as a rolling window.

(If you're from New Zealand you're okay though, as special rules apply to those lucky kiwis.)

[ Edit: Edited on 14-May-2012, at 09:45 by Sander ]

3. Posted by gdickson16 (Budding Member 13 posts) 2y

Quoting Sander

Where are you from? Unless you plan to spend a really long amount of time in the Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey, former Yugoslavia, and Morocco, I fear you're going to run afoul of the "maximum of 90 days in any given 180 day period" rule of the Schengen Visa, and will need to seriously alter your plans (at the very least shift the two months in the UK and Ireland to the middle of the trip).

That is, if you're in the Schengen Zone (effectively though not quite equivalent to the mainland EU) as a non-EU citizen, you're probably there under the terms of the Schengen Visa, which specifies that you're only allowed to be there 50% of any given time period, with a maximum continuous stay of 90 days. And because of that "any given time period", this doesn't "reset" when you leave the Schengen Zone, but the 180 days time period works as a rolling window.

(If you're from New Zealand you're okay though, as special rules apply to those lucky kiwis.)

I am from Canada, and based on my research of the Schengen Visa, Canadian citizens do not require to apply for one.
Unless I'm missing something.

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4428 posts) 2y

You do not need to apply for one. You get one automatically on arrival. And so its rules still apply. (Yes, this sucks, particularly as Canada allows most Europeans to just stay for six months, no questions asked.)

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6. Posted by gdickson16 (Budding Member 13 posts) 2y

I've read some countries will have 'bilateral agreements' with countries for visits. So in Canada we allow many visitors a longer stay so that may help us.
Says we have to call every country to find out.