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1. Posted by joey22 (Travel Guru 561 posts) 11y

does anyone have any information on the border crossing from vietnam to china? is it easy to cross the border and then what transport options are available once i'm in china? where do you go once youre over the border? i would have maybe a month to spend there, does anyone have a rough itinerary? i would like to go to beijing, shanghai, the great wall and also to see the terracotta warriors, is this possible? also can i arrange a visa for china in vietnam? what about a cheap flight back from hong kong to bangkok?cheers, joe

2. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

There are two places you can cross from Vietnam to China. You can arrange everything in Hanoi. I caught a very comfortable sleeper train from Hanoi to Beijing. It took two days and two nights. Cost $US100.

Head for Beijing first, because it's the furtherest away. The Great Wall is a day tour from Beijing. You can go to X'ian (Warriors) & Shanghai from Beijing by train.

There's an international airport in Kunming with daily flights to Bangkok.
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HTH

3. Posted by joey22 (Travel Guru 561 posts) 11y

cheers wocca! any idea how much flight back to bangkok might be? which airlines are we talking? also, any other places i should check out? any little "secret" places that other tourists might not know? joey

4. Posted by MattXIII (Full Member 272 posts) 11y

Why can't you go from Beijing to X'ian by train?
I've caught an overnight train from X'ian to Beijing.

5. Posted by joey22 (Travel Guru 561 posts) 11y

it doesnt say you cant go to xian from beijing on the train???? anyway, i looked at some train info for china and it seems you can just about get anywhere. i am thinking of spending a couple of weeks going to beijing, shanghai and xian before heading to kunming where i am joining an intrepid tour around the yunnan province. will two weeks be enough time to see the sights in beijing, shanghai and xian? those two weeks won't include the two day train journey from hanoi. also is it leshan where there is a huge buddha? is that worth checking out?

how long can you get visas for? and can you get a visa sorted out for china in vietnam? because after the tour i have a bit more time that i could spend in china before i head back to thailand. any other must see places? what about tibet?

i havent done much research into china yet as i only decided to add it onto my trip to se asia a couple of days ago. any advice would be smashing, cheers, joey

6. Posted by Zhou (Full Member 126 posts) 11y

wow, you seem to be quite greedy.;) two weeks` almost enough for the three cities if you arrange well, but hard to cover Tibet if you wanna travel here instead of passing by. There`s a huge Budda in Leshan. You`ll see Budda everwhere, so I`m not sure if you`ll get bored and feel unworthy to see it. In Beijing, the Forbidden City, the north sea(sea refers to a lake here)park, the back sea(bars, hutongs), the Prince Gong`s residence, the drum tower are all in one line. Tiananmen Square is just in front of the Forbidden city, and walk down you`ll reach Wangfujin street.

7. Posted by MattXIII (Full Member 272 posts) 11y

Yunnan? You'll get to see Tiger Leaping Gorge then. Absolutely gorgeous!
You need to have ya shots for the Yunnan province though.

8. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting MattXIII

Yunnan? You'll get to see Tiger Leaping Gorge then. Absolutely gorgeous!
You need to have ya shots for the Yunnan province though.

What shots? No foreigners I know here in Yunnan have had shots.

Hopefully, the road won't be washed out on the way to Tiger Leaping Gorge

9. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting joey22

"...I am thinking of spending a couple of weeks going to beijing, shanghai and xian before heading to kunming where i am joining an intrepid tour around the yunnan province. will two weeks be enough time to see the sights in beijing, shanghai and xian? those two weeks won't include the two day train journey from hanoi. also is it leshan where there is a huge buddha? is that worth checking out?..."

Don't know about Leshan, but two weeks should be enough for Beijing, Shanghai & Xian.

The Intrepid Tours start from the Camellia Hotel in Kunming. You should get to see everything worthwhile in Yunnan Province with Intrepid.

[/quote=joey22]"...how long can you get visas for? and can you get a visa sorted out for china in vietnam? because after the tour i have a bit more time that i could spend in china before i head back to thailand. any other must see places? what about tibet?..."

Chinese tourist "L" visa's obtained from neighbouring countries are usually only valid for 30 days. It's easy to extend at the PSB (Chinese Police) for another 30 days. Cost is about $US20 to extend. You might be able to arrange a 60 day visa in your own country beforehand.

If you want to go to Tibet, there's a man called Mr Chen who arranges overland tours there from Kunming. His English is perfect. He can sort out travel permits & so on. His email address is:

[email protected]

[/quote=joey22]"...i havent done much research into china yet as i only decided to add it onto my trip to se asia a couple of days ago. any advice would be smashing, cheers, joey..."

One great thing about the people who travel to China is, they are usually very seasoned world travellers. You really know you're "out there" in the world when you're in China. You'll have a ball !

Ciao
Wocca

10. Posted by joey22 (Travel Guru 561 posts) 11y

cheers wocca! very useful stuff. so, can you tell me, exactly how cold is it gonna be from mid november to mid december? the tour starts in kunming on 28th nov and goes on until 12th december. i would probably head back to thailand almost straight away after the end of the tour. so, i would be in china for a month from maybe 13/14th nov til 14th decmeber. are we talking serious minus temperatures and proper cold weather clothing? or just cold? what type of temperatures? in the beijing lonely planet it said it got as cold as -20 degrees in winter!!!!!!!

basically what i'm wondering is if it would be too cold? it might be a bit dangerous in tiger leaping gorge etc. maybe i would be better putting off a trip to china until a later date? or am i being paranoid?

i doubt that intrepid would run a tour from 28th nov-12th december if the weather was going to be extreme.

would be interested to hear what you think? do you reckon i should go for it?

cheers

joey