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21. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 11y

Quoting Joz

Yes I do. I believe that what you put out there...comes back to you. Yes there are exceptions, and sometimes fate doesn't work fast enough...but generaly I think it is true.

So what did the guy that won the lottery put "out there". What about the guy that died in a car accident?

22. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

Maybe its not so straight edge like that?

With kamma one almost have to believe in other lives, re-incarnation that sort of thing. So the guy that won the lottery may have has a pervious life that was more virtuous.. (if you consider millions of dollars good karma, I don't). The guy who got hit by the car may have has a not so virtuous previous life...

... thats my interpretation.

23. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting tway

"...The idea of "what goes around comes around" is all very tit-for-tat... like someone/thing is keeping score somewhere..."

This reminds me of the close of John F Kennedy's inauguartion speech 1961:

"... With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds,..."

24. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting X

"...You are about to cross the steet and a car is coming: In your head you think "Go, or do not go". When you make that choice is it you making the choice or is there something else. If you are hit by that car is it a result of your choice or the choice of another?

You may think about trying to "trick" the guiding "hand". Lets say the first descision that came to you was to cross the road.. then you think, okay may the hand is telling me to cross the road. So if I do not cross the road I am in control... but maybe that is all apart of it? See what I mean? Or am I just out to lunch?..."

Yo x

Perhaps your hand is in control, and needs a sandwich placed in it.
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When it comes back from lunch, see if it cares to explore the following site:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/zen/sayings.htm

25. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting Wocca

What goes around comes around, OR does it?

I do believe in karma, I believe in doing the right thing and the good ol' saying...what goes around, comes around. I've seen it over and over and over...with other people of course

26. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

Quoting Wocca

Yo x

Perhaps your hand is in control, and needs a sandwich placed in it.
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When it comes back from lunch, see if it cares to explore the following site:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/zen/sayings.htm

Hehe well my hand went for the pizza instead. That site is interesting, This one seemed to come out at me:

"When you forget the good and the non-good, the worldly life and the religious life, and all other dharmas, and permit no thoughts relating to them to arise, and you abandon body and mind—then there is complete freedom. When the mind is like wood or stone, there is nothing to be discriminated."

27. Posted by thezenyen (Full Member 88 posts) 11y

I think that karma is like that phrase "you reap what you sow". I humbly believe it is not like someone out there keeping an exact score of what you did, and what you deserve. For example, I know people who are difficult and then have trouble finding a job or a relationship simply because of one's reputation.

A lot of events in life are neutral. They are not good or bad. For example, last year I was diagnosed with a medical issue. I learned a lot-the priorities in my life & got a clearer picture of what I'd like to do with the rest of it. I realised no one guaranteed me a good life or a long one. I had to make it a good one myself. And if I did not die one day, I would not be able to appreciate love & life.

So in a way, whather we have good or bad karma depends on us. If we make something good out of it, no matter what it is...it may be good fortune...

oh dear, just realised the baove may not make sense ...

28. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

Quoting thezenyen

oh dear, just realised the baove may not make sense ...

That makes a lot of sense. You summed that up very nicely.

29. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Quoting thezenyen

A lot of events in life are neutral. They are not good or bad.

Is karma non-existent for those who stand on a neutral moral ground? (No, no one is completely on neutral moral ground all of the time.) Does it truly effect everyone - believer and non-believer? Is karma a neutral energy until it is placed in motion by one's actions in the real (vs spiritual) world - moral or immoral in nature (the action, that is)?

Given the Eckankar "theory" that the first incarnation begins as a grain of sand, and with each successive re-incarnation one moves up the chain of life (rock, flower, tree, etc) until reaching the ultimate spiritual level of being - is karma's cause and effect in play from beginning to end of the complete cycle?

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