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1. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

That lies should be necessary to life is part and parcel of the terrible and questionable character of existence Nietzsche

Do you despise lies of any kind or do you think that they sometimes a necessary evil?

2. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

I hate it when people lie. One certain German business 'partner' of ours (not Travellerspoint) continuously lies or twists the truth and it's so annoying and incredible to listen to. It's like he actually believes it himself....

In business you do get a lot of folk over-exagerating but when you know that and especially when you know it's common in that country (I have noticed it in Australia quite often for example) or with that person, you just take everything at half of the value they claim...

3. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting samsara2

That lies should be necessary to life is part and parcel of the terrible and questionable character of existence Nietzsche

Do you despise lies of any kind or do you think that they sometimes a necessary evil?

I do believe on the so called White Lies...lying to protect others from being hurt or to spare them of the cold truth. One of my friends was at my house this weekend and he was telling me he has to lie to his girlfriend constantly because she wont trust him with anything even though he isnt doing anything wrong. I said that wasnt a good way to continue the relationship obviously if there is no trust at all. Bit he loves her still...hmmmm

I lie to my mother-in-law all the time when she brings me live plants and I say I love them. You would think that by now she would have noticed there isnt a single live plant left in my house, we are plant killers! We know how to care for silk plants only. But still she continues to bring them. I told my husband, what if I just tell her not to bring any anymore, he says..."Oh no, you would hurt her feelings..." Cant win...

4. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

When i finished with an ex-girlfriend (who wanted to marry me), she asked "Is it because of me you want to finish". It was totally because of her (attitude, outlook on life etc etc), but i knew her confidence was frail so if i had been truthful it would have done even more damage, so i had to make up some lame excuse how it was down to me. Still don't know to this day if i done the right thing (with what i told her, defintely done the right thing finishing with her).

5. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

I always wonder about those little white lies - the ones we tell to "protect" people. Is it better for them (us), in the long run, to know the truth (ie - we find them difficult, frustrating, a downer, etc.)? It's hard to listen to at first, but sometimes we need to hear that "truth" to reasses our lives and make some necessary changes. Maybe we tell little white lies because it's easier and more comfortable for us to say "no, no, it's not you" than to face hurting someone.

The best lessons are the hardest learned - but, that being said, I think I pick little white lies over a painful truth more often than not.

6. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting samsara2

"...Do you despise lies of any kind or do you think that they sometimes a necessary evil?..."

The cruelest lies are those which are said in silence. The intentional withholding of information which would be good for you to know. The things that you don't get to find out about until later.

7. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting Wocca

Quoting samsara2

"...Do you despise lies of any kind or do you think that they sometimes a necessary evil?..."

The cruelest lies are those which are said in silence. The intentional withholding of information which would be good for you to know. The things that you don't get to find out about until later.

Those are the kind of lies that are favored by all males...whenever I catch my husband in one of those he says..."I didnt lie to you...I just didnt tell you, I forgot!"...YEAH RIGHT!!!!

He has a hearing problem too (70-90% hearing loss in each ear) but he still plays the selective hearing game with me..."I just didnt hear you". Hmmmm...the problem is, I never know.

8. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

I agree with Tway.

I think people "lie" more to protect themselves. And they start with "white" lies (I do not get that term) and it gets worse and worse.

9. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

I can't lie. Not even those little white ones...it is always written all over my face. I wish I had some sort of poker face...because I get people asking me things only because they KNOW I can't fake something. Irritating as hell.....But it really does simplify life.

10. Posted by sally8585 (Full Member 64 posts) 11y

its always better to be upfront and i try and always be honest as I just say what I feel anyway, I dont like to pretend.but everyone tells the odd white lie,itd be difficult not to,its just where to draw the line my friends!