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11. Posted by KellieBarnes (Travel Guru 813 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Sorry! Edited my comment out. :(

If it is just the ad in that space then don't worry. I couldn't remember what else should have been there.

12. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3864 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

I like the font but it does look very big, particularly on the list of forums, and everything is now much more spaced out which I'm not sure looks as good.

13. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Peter

I've been playing with the typography on Travellerspoint over the last 2 weeks or so and have settled on a new font to switch to (Open Sans). This will be quite a noticeable change both due to the new font and also a much larger font size.

I have done testing comparing the fonts and for new visitors the new style results in a much improved response (lower bounce rates), so this is something I'm committed to getting up live sooner rather than later. I'm in the process of tweaking pages site wide to accommodate the change.

In other words - brace yourself ;)

If you would like to test the new font you can do so effective immediately, but only in the forums and in the guide for now. Access this url and it will set you up with the new look.

Changes like this can take some getting used to, but I think this one is worthwhile. Feedback welcome.

p.s. Sander - this is one of the Google webfonts, so it may be blocked for you. In which case, I'm not sure, but there might be an option to install it on your system to get the expected look.

hello peter, sorry - dont like it at all! can i return to the old one? or is that it? i think the bigger font looks unprofessional, child-like - the huge gaps look strange to me esp. on the photos this something i can change back, i.e. is part of my personal blog settings? or is it something travellers point controls???? hope to hear from you soon....

14. Posted by Peter (Admin 6207 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

It is a a pretty big change (from 11px up to 15px in parts), so it might jar somewhat. I have run tests on this size though and the response from new users is definitely better at this size in the areas I've tested it (guide and forums)

I find after working with this larger size for a couple of weeks I'm quite adjusted to it now and was finding the smaller size hard to go back to. So maybe give it a few days and see how it wears on you ;)

15. Posted by Peter (Admin 6207 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Hi spiderface, your personal blog's design is not affected - you have full control over that styling. This is only on the main site.

There are ways of adding your own styles for sites if you really prefer a smaller font, but yes, this will be the default font for Travellerspoint unless our stats clearly show that it is not received well.

It is always hard balancing the needs of our regular users with the reactions of newcomers. We can't keep everyone happy I'm afraid. Sorry if your first reaction is not positive.

16. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5107 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Could you consider the following tweaks for the forum index (both in forum-2.0.min.css) :
.forum_table td: padding: 5px 7px (instead of 10px 5px) - cram more topics into one screen (vertically), and make the spacing more even (actually increase horizontal spacing, as the larger font needs more breathing space for two columns to stand apart when text takes up the full width).
.forum_table td strong: line-height: 18px (instead of 25px); font-size: 14px (instead of 15px) - I find the line-height tweak to be essential for many thread titles which now take up two lines. And the bold here is so bold that it easily offsets the 1px smaller font; with that change, the text feels much more similar, visually, to regular weight 15px text.

[ Edit: Edited on 02-Jul-2013, at 04:38 by Sander ]

17. Posted by Peter (Admin 6207 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Let me play with that forum index page a bit. I did already adjust it since yesterday, but hey.. Not particularly keen on introducing 14px as another size. Would rather keep the logical steps I have now. But bold and 13px may be sufficient in the forum index.

18. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5107 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Yeah, that's always the problem with bold text; it really throws a carefully orchestrated range of font-size steps out of whack. Someday we'll have gradual weights! Some day...

I can totally live with 13px bold, too, fwiw, though do think 14px bold fits in best. (Shame that 15px regular is not quite present enough, otherwise you could get rid of the bold altogether there.)

19. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5107 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Another tweak which would be nice (for the regular thread display) would be changing the .entry_options margin-bottom to just 15px (from 25px), and maybe the #lcon p margin-bottom to just 20px (from 25px) (15px would also work if 20px isn't a size used anywhere else, but then it probably should be restricted to forum threads) - if you go that route, the .entry min-height could stand reducing, too, as the bottom spacing for 1/2 line entries starts looking really out of place.

20. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5107 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

I like the look in the wiki - but the #wiki blockquote line-height at 50px is kinda ridiculous :) (travel helper profiles). It's still 12px Georgia (is that deliberate?), for which 25px line-height is plenty.