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21. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 3y

Quoting Peter

Hi spiderface, your personal blog's design is not affected - you have full control over that styling. This is only on the main site.

There are ways of adding your own styles for sites if you really prefer a smaller font, but yes, this will be the default font for Travellerspoint unless our stats clearly show that it is not received well.

It is always hard balancing the needs of our regular users with the reactions of newcomers. We can't keep everyone happy I'm afraid. Sorry if your first reaction is not positive.

ok peter, thanks for the reply. but i do agree with another comment, that - although the new font is ok itself - the bigness rather spoils things!
i will see what happens. spiderface.

22. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3711 posts) 3y

I agree with the comment about it looking unprofessional but as you say Peter, I'll see how it goes.

23. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 3y

There's a 20px margin-bottom on body which I'm sure isn't intended (causes a white band underneath the blue footer, rather than having that extend to the bottom of the screen).

24. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 3y

Ok, running the risk about being to undiplomatic here, but I don't like it. The bigness like Spiderface mentions is the thing that really looks stupid and is annoying. If you want it to be bigger, just use the % (bottom right) yourself.

Technical detail: in the guide the name of the article (and where it is in, for example Travelguide - Europe - Netherlands) is in the cover photo. Don't like that either as it is less obvious you can click on it to go back to Europe for example.

25. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

In fairness, the target audience for the site is not really "professionals" ;)

But yes - it's not a serious font. It falls in the category of "humanist sans-serif" . Same as our previous font - Lucida Grande. I did toy with other standards like Helvetica and Arial, but these also have their pitfalls (Helvetica doesn't hold up well on PC and Arial looks overly serious for my liking). Lucida Grande, although it's nice on a Mac, does not hold up well on PCs does not exist on PCs or look too great at the larger sizes. Georgia is an option for body font too, but it gives everything a serious bookish feel which I am not so keen on. Then there are a myriad of other fonts you can pay for, but the pricing there is beyond ridiculous for a site with our level of traffic. There may have been better options there, but I quickly scrapped that idea in favour of open source.

[ Edit: Edited on 02-Jul-2013, at 05:24 by Peter ]

26. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Quoting Utrecht

Ok, running the risk about being to undiplomatic here, but I don't like it. The bigness like Spiderface mentions is the thing that really looks stupid and is annoying. If you want it to be bigger, just use the % (bottom right) yourself.

Same could be argued for making it smaller ;) And generally the people with poorer eyesight who will like a larger font are also those ones who are less likely to know how to shrink sizes.

Technical detail: in the guide the name of the article (and where it is in, for example Travelguide - Europe - Netherlands) is in the cover photo. Don't like that either as it is less obvious you can click on it to go back to Europe for example.

Fixed this -- it was not loading the right styles. Also fixed that problem with the blockquotes on that page Sander - same problem. I was looking at a different page, scratching my head wondering why you were seeing these things.

27. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 3y

Quoting Peter

Quoting Utrecht

Ok, running the risk about being to undiplomatic here, but I don't like it. The bigness like Spiderface mentions is the thing that really looks stupid and is annoying. If you want it to be bigger, just use the % (bottom right) yourself.

Same could be argued for making it smaller ;) And generally the people with poorer eyesight who will like a larger font are also those ones who are less likely to know how to shrink sizes.

Technical detail: in the guide the name of the article (and where it is in, for example Travelguide - Europe - Netherlands) is in the cover photo. Don't like that either as it is less obvious you can click on it to go back to Europe for example.

Fixed this -- it was not loading the right styles. Also fixed that problem with the blockquotes on that page Sander - same problem. I was looking at a different page, scratching my head wondering why you were seeing these things.

So true, point taken regarding making it bigger or smaller. But still, compared to loads of sites it's pretty large imho. Every change is difficult to people sometimes, but I also compare it to what's on the world wide web elsewhere and I think it just looks odd. Stupid has been mentioned too

At the forum top where you see 'Travel Forums - System Talk - New Site font coming soon' for example, could it look slightly different? The main points here are there is little space between those items and it's a very light kinda grey, hardly popping out as something you might click on again.

28. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Actually, the size is not that uncommon on the web. TheNextWeb for example has a font size of 16px. Not to say there are not people still using smaller fonts, because there are plenty. But the size we were at (11px) has in fact been becoming quite a bit less common.

It might look strange in the context here because we were on such a tiny one before and it is a rather big jump ;)

Point noted on the crumbs navigation styling.

29. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 3y

of course travel blogs should look 'professional' - thats why there are lots of choices vis a vis layout etc. surely?
i, personally, take a lot of time making sure that my blog looks nice for the people that read it, and is easy to move around....i think the comment posted by utrecht is also interesting, that font size can be altered by each individual....
im sure people can change their own font size on their own machines if they can't see the writing on websites?!
i think bigger fonts always seem childlike...but maybe thats just me.
one last thing is that now that the font size is increased i have to move up and down the pages more, i.e. when entering info for photos - which used to be more compact, when trying to see how many blog entries there are, etc. etc. everything has become more spaced out, which seems unnecessary.
its not the font perse, its the size! and as we all know, size matters! (big or small!)

30. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 3y

p.s. x11 to x16 is too big a jump!