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31. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Well, Utrecht is right that people can change their font sizes if they really want to. But for me, I need to come up with what is best as the default. Hardly anyone actually does change their font size like that. Mostly people just hit the back button. So this really is quite a moot point.

Which is why I ran tests to see the response from these visitors when presented with the two different options. The result was significant enough (99.9% statistical certainty) that I don't really have any doubt that the larger font is the right move.

32. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Quoting spiderface

p.s. x11 to x16 is too big a jump!

Our jump has been from 11 to 15. TheNextWeb was just an example of a site that has also opted for larger fonts. Incidentally, 16px is the default font size of a HTML document without any styling added whatsoever.

In most areas of the site, I also only went up to 13px. It's in the large slabs of text where I think 15px does actually make things more readable. But you know - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

33. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4811 posts) 3y

FWIW, I support the larger font-size. Yes, it's a huge jump, but it makes sense, and makes for quite a bit easier reading (tomorrow you'll hardly know any different anymore). My main "complaint" is the extra whitespace which comes along with it, causing far less information to fit on each screen (and causing information to seem "disassociated" from accompanying information). Some of that is simply necessary to maintain readability with this font and font-size, but a lot of it can probably/hopefully be removed again.

[ Edit: Edited on 02-Jul-2013, at 06:10 by Sander ]

34. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 3y

Quoting Sander

FWIW, I support the larger font-size. Yes, it's a huge jump, but it makes sense, and makes for quite a bit easier reading (tomorrow you'll hardly know any different anymore). My main "complaint" is the extra whitespace which comes along with it, causing far less information to fit on each screen (and causing information to seem "disassociated" from accompanying information). Some of that is simply necessary to maintain readability with this font and font-size, but a lot of it can probably/hopefully be removed again.

i agree with this post about the white space, perhaps thats what i mean, the font increase (whatever it went from/to) has created more space which gives the impression of a more childlike site (in my opinion)
your right peter.......beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....and to my mind the site looked more beautiful yesterday!
hey ho though, it seems fait a complet anyway, and i will get used to it in the end im sure.
its good to discuss thoughts though, with you and other members, + despite copious 'research' and 'stats' the look and feel does matter to users - new and old - too.

35. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Well yes - and it is quite possible that my stats only reflected a general improvement because of the larger font size (I incidentally did do a test where that was the only thing that changed as well and saw the same result).

Spacing and margins were really a side-affect of the change. Necessary to adjust due to the larger sizes, but possibly over-adjusted based on the reactions in this thread at least.

36. Posted by spiderface (Budding Member 36 posts) 3y

of course, everything changes when one thing is altered!
to summarise and conclude, the font is ok, nice even, i like it, its the size, and extra white space, that, for me, is the prob. mostly highlighted on the photos pages as the pics now appear quite small, when compared to the massive text next to them! and as someone else said the disassociation of info, the spread of stuff, now the print is bigger, has spoiled the 'look' of the site for me.
i dont know what will happen/if it will improve, but will wait and see. thanks.

37. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 3y

Technical detail: in the guide the name of the article (and where it is in, for example Travelguide - Europe - Netherlands) is in the cover photo. Don't like that either as it is less obvious you can click on it to go back to Europe for example.

Fixed this -- it was not loading the right styles. Also fixed that problem with the blockquotes on that page Sander - same problem. I was looking at a different page, scratching my head wondering why you were seeing these things.[/quote]

Seems it's still loading in the cover photo. Just to let you know..;)
Thanks for all the efforts though, also must be said sometimes!

38. Posted by TraceyG (Respected Member 37 posts) 3y

It looks like the whole blog interface has gotten a redesign, too? Now when I log in, I can no longer see my comments or if I have any new subscribers! :( It's also harder to access my entries (more keystrokes as opposed to before). Is this a temporary issue or will this be permanent?

39. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Yeah, I did alter the main blogs management page as well. That was feeling overly cluttered to me, but you're right - having the comment / subscriber count would be useful at first glance. I'll add those back in. There's enough room for it.

Not sure what you mean about accessing entries. There's still a link there to those - though now named "Posts".

Seems it's still loading in the cover photo. Just to let you know..
Thanks for all the efforts though, also must be said sometimes!

<scratching head again> Ah yeah, dang it.. getting rid of that cookie I had set shows it for me to. Will fix now.

40. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 3y

Quoting spiderface

prob. mostly highlighted on the photos pages as the pics now appear quite small, when compared to the massive text next to them

Just to clarify, which photos pages are you referring to? The ones in the gallery or your private photo management area? There is quite a lot of detail showing in the gallery pages next to each photo. Probably more than is really needed actually. It might help if I reduce some of that information.

I'll spend some time working on line-heights and margins today. See if I can find a middle ground :)