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11. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Yes Eve!
Wills are usually for estates, personal possesions etc.
Living wills or advance directives are what you would like done in XXX case...your heart you want CPR or use of a defibralator? Do you want just medication, or something else? Your brain has been without oxygen for x amount of you want to be on a ventilator? Do you want everything and anything done for X amount of time, then stop all treatment? The list is endless...I have one, but mine is pretty simple, I want nothing done EVER! Extreme? Yes, but as with anyone the reasons are personal. Advance directives and living wills can be contested by family, BUT odds are in your favor of having things done the way you want them too, IF you have something in writing.
Sorry this is so long, it is kind of a pet project of mine...I have tried to get as many people as I could to fill one out;)

12. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Oh right - the penny has dropped! I wasnt sure what that meant. So, I presume you're following the Schiavo case at the moment?

13. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Not really, just what I catch on the news....I just don't think the government should have ANY say in the matter. It is a personal matter and should stay that way.

14. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting samsara2

I dont know anything about these matters, can you create a will if there is no money involved? I'm just interested....

I dont know if this will apply to the Europe but here in the US, a will is important for a lot of reasons but one especifically, even though you may not have possessions is the following:

Lets pretend I am 25, no money, no house, no car, nothing. You get hit by a bus tomorrow...nothing happens. No one gets anything, case closed. But lets assume that the bus that hit you was being driven by a drunken driver during work hours. There is a liability issue there. Depending on particular laws, the only people that may be able to sue the liable driver are those who are dependent of you if legal adults or the spouse. Here is the US, for example in the case of my friend passing away, NO ONE could sue the hospital aside from her husband. Not even her mother could. Her children could sue the day they reach the age of 18 in about 5 years.

But, if the 25 year old has a will, the Estate of the 25 yr old, as a single entity can sue the driver and the Estate will receive the proceeds eventually. Then the money received by the Estate will be divided as you set forth in your will.

I dont know if the laws work equally in Europe in regards to wills and estates but here in the US, where people a law-suit happy, this is a VERY important issue people dont realize until it may be too late.

Something to think about...

15. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Oh by the way Eve, I dont want to confuse a LIVING WILL with a WILL...they are two separate different things (at least here in the US). Joz did a good job explaining what a LIVING WILL DOES...I strayed away to talk about what a WILL can do for you...just to clarify.

16. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Absolutely, I agree. It's such a difficult "area" though. On a slightly different note....

We had to put our golden retriever down a couple of months ago. She was a faithful friend for 12 years and we were devastated. People who dont love dogs will think I'm being melodramatic, but I cried for two days. In the end she had the most dignified death. The vet came to the house and she was just given a simple injection. As I watched her drift off to sleep I remember thinking why cant humans be afforded that dignity too. If someone doesnt believe in God, then why is euthenasia so abhorrent?

Im not trying to be flippant by comparing a dogs life to a human beings but it just got me thinking....

I suppose euthenasia is essentially a selfish act and ending a human's life is a whole different ball-game to ending a dogs.

Or is it?

17. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Whoops - sorry Anne - you got in ahead of me last post should be read in relation to Joz's (i refuse to call you Cupcake Joz!)

18. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Anne, you know a lot about wills! :)

Did not know any of the above. I havent got a clue what the lie of the land is over here....must find out for curiosity sake.


19. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y


As Joz stated, a living will is a very good idea for what you want done medicall, if you are unable to voice them yourself.

As far as a willing your possessions, until you have an "estate" (house, etc), there is a simpler way to see that your wishes are respected. Again, this route can be contested also, but you will have a better chance of having your wishes honored than not. This information is from seeking legal advice at one time and was recommended to us by someone in that profession.

A will can be any document describing what you have and how it is to be divided. It does not need to contain everything, only those things that you want a particular person(s) or organization to receive. Once you have written this document, have it notarized by a Notary Public and signed by two people who will NOT benefit from the dispostion of property. It can be hand written or typed. There are sites where simple wills - for people in your situation - can be downloaded and printed out. Again, they can be contested, as can any will, but they are considered legal and binding if no contest lodged. Be sure to let someone know where the document is kept.

20. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

You could use CC like Isa;)
I agree with you totally Eve...we let a dog die in the loving care of family...but we don't afford the same to humans? Sad state of affairs...:(