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1. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

Buddha says:

"Attachment causes suffering".

Your opinions please.

2. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Well, he doesn't mention that suffering is necessarily a bad thing, nor does he say what suffering eventually leads to.

So... I'd say yes, attachment leads to necessary suffering that - in the end - brings one greater joy.

3. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

attachment leads to necessary suffering

So in other words, material and emotional attachment is a good thing? To be truely free, one must be free of both physical and emotional attachment. Suffering is not necessary.

By freeing yourself from your "possesions" and "loved ones" you can begin on your journey to enlightenment..

4. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

Buddha says:

"Attachment causes suffering".

Your opinions please.

You only hurt the one's you love.

If you truly don't care/have no attachment to someone one, they can't hurt you. Only someone whos opinion really matters to you- can hurt you.

5. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

That's interesting, Brendan. I was looking at it the other way: if you come out of yourself and choose to be attached - or connected to/share life with/be vulnerable with - another person, you are bound to suffer in some way. And it is through suffering that we learn who we are and what we want - and emerge better and stronger and happier for it. It also either strengthens our attachment to the other person, or cuts our ties altogether.

In my experience, people (read "men", in this case) who refuse to attach themselves are scared of suffering - and avoid deep feelings of any kind at any cost. I believe they also avoid living to the fullest.

I didn't understand the quote as referring to material attachment, though. That's a whole other bag of problems.

6. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

Hmm, and here I was thinking he was referring to the vast amount of emails attachments with viruses out there... I think I sit behind my computer too much

7. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

Other people are important for growth and learning, but this is very different from attachment to those people.

To learn and grow from someone does not mean you are attached to them, likewise to be attached to somone does not mean you will learn or grow from them.

...it is through suffering that we learn who we are and what we want - and emerge better and stronger and happier for it

Through suffering one only suffers.

8. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Suffering is a very necessary part of the journey through life. Everybody experiences suffering - I dont believe that there is one human being who doesnt on some level.

The deepest wisest, most balanced people are those who have come through pain or experienced loss of some kind.

I got thinking about the troughs in my life with the "If you could do it over..." thread, and I was surprised to find that I dont even think I would now change the worst thing that has happened in my 25 years on the planet. Something that devastated my young life at one point has now become a part of who I am...I'm not sure if I would want to be the old Evelyn again.

In relation to attachement, yes I agree with Buddha....attachment does lead to suffering. I'm a fairly detached individual in general for that very reason. I think its why I "function" well in this arena - because none of you are in any real position to hurt me. It's relatively safe.

Although I think that probably means I'm a coward

9. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 11y

I would agree that most people suffer. It is to vague to say that everyone suffers. I still do not agree it is a necessary part of life. It is apart of life, but not necessary.

Yes, suffering does shape a person into who they are. Likewise, non-suffering shapes a person into who they are.

10. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Look, Evelyn, I'm agreeing with you again! :)

What made me suffer most in my life is also what has pushed me to grow the most. I would never, ever change it - yet I know how much it hurt and how badly I felt. Still, I wear those months like a Girl Guide badge of pride. I am more free and more happy because of it. Had I not been attached in the first case, I simply would not have cared.

But! We all have our own experiences and opinions that shape who we are and make us unique. Although, that said, I find myself following Evelyn around to second her remarks...