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Scammed In Shanghai China - Bar Drinks and Women

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1. Posted by travelnutz (First Time Poster, 1 posts) 9 Nov '13 19:13

China Scam - Don't fall for that pretty lady who make you feel at ease and share a drink at a Bar.

First time in China, I arrived in Shanghai for a 2 day transit business trip, I was staying in a reputed hotel, and by midnight I wasn't getting any sleepier because of the Jet lag n time change etc, so I decided to go out that night. And with the help of the reception staff, they called me a taxi to take me to the 'good' bars area. But they did not give me any clue about the scammers and the dangers behind some of these bars. Anyway, I arrived at this street and was having a look round the pubs they had in that street and was about to go in to one until I saw this pretty young bird in her early thirties who can speak English approached me and mentioned that she knew some good bars in the area and she can take me to one which stays open for longer than these bars and with much better crowds and girls. Her very easy going talk made me feel at ease and I jumped in another taxi with her to go to one of the other street near by, which was at Nanging Road. I told her I dont have much money to spend and all i have is 300 ChineseRMB, she told me the place is damn cheap etc, even though it came in the talk about my whereabouts, to be on the safe side, I didn't disclose her where I was from or where I am staying etc. She took me to a place on or near Nanjing road and she paid for the taxi with her Taxi card as she said it is really cheap for her using the local taxi card. Then we walked to this shopping mall and took the lift to the fourth floor where it opened to a Bar. We were greeted by a good looking girl at the bar. I looked around and there were only three or four men at different tables in a corner. Anyway, the girl invited me to a room inside, as with the situation, I didn't feel very comfortable and I told them I am not drinking booze. So now a few girls appear in that room and the bird who came with me ask me to choose one for my company there. I choose the pretty looking girl from the four that lined up, now the bird ask me to pay 200RMB for the company, and I gave the waiter girl 200RMB, they asked me what drink I wanted and I said I just want a Coke. The bird who came with me now said good bye and left shutting the door leaving me with the girl I picked. She started touching me, which I started to enjoy and offered me a BJ but I denied, as I was much interested in seeing her naked. Few minutes later a bottle of coke arrived; but she never got naked. And eventually I fell for her hand job as she promised me that she will get naked after she look after me well.. right!! Once that done she is reluctantly sitting on the couch doing nothing and I told her I am leaving, so she asked me to wait for the waitress, straight away this man now enters the room with a bill and the girl vanishes out of the door. He showed me a bill of 27K RMB (around US$4500.00) and asked me to pay for the special service I received. I told them I have paid for that already as agreed before, and all I have is another 100RMB for the coke and that's it. But he is determined to get the money, asking where and who I am staying with or get money from friends etc.. so they weren't gonna leave me alone, I had a few dollars (around $40 or so) in my pocket which I offered them, but they weren't ready to take it. now three more other guys and the young waitress lady entered the room the lady sounded like the boss, giving the others orders to harrass me (she looked stunning though) and I started to make noise very loudly as if someone could hear it and help me. But all of a sudden they started to punch me, and strangle me, I blocked and resisted a few while making sure I was making much louder noise.. but no help came from anywhere. I could see through the glass patch on the door that they had men waiting outside the door with some sort of stick or a possible weapon to give me a good mash up if in case I decided to do something naughty. At this point, before making it worst and fatal, I offered them I will pay some money with the card, and they took me to the beer tills, I handed over my card and told them there is only little money in there as I am a student and flashed my ten years old student card to them (Since there is n't any drastic changes on how my face looks, I use this Uni card at places to get discounts and stuff as it didnt have any date on it), she probably didn't believe it. but only punched in 3000 rmb from one card and 4000 rmb from the other (which equates to around US$1150). I had to sign the receipt, which I gave it a fake scribble. Once the payment authorised, they all looked very happy to get that money after their night of 'hard work'. The Bar at this time was fully locked up and that's when I realised I was their only customer for that night since I came in and the customers I saw while coming in was only pretenders waiting to screw me right off !!! I was free to go now... they threw me the Chinese RMB which I gave them earlier as I said I need money for taxi.. I was freakin terrified, I went to take the lift down but the lady insisted the lift to the mall is shut down as it is around 4am, and I should take the stairs all the way down through the back door which was again I thought is a trap but I had no choice but run.. I ran for my life and reached the back door which was open; there were some people there.. and I ran through the streets a long zig zang way and went to a small shop where I bought a bottle of water and remained there for the next half hour as I thought somebody could be tracing me, while I am there, I rang my Bank to stop my card. I told them I was robbed. The Card company informed me that the money was taken out from my account by ZE RUN BAR but will be on hold until I finish some more formalities. I flew back home the next day and after reaching I had to fill up a form that the bank sent me. And the money was in my account the next week. I found out there is a few other thread interestingly mentions the trap diverted by these pretty looking ladies at the streets and being done at ZE RUN BAR or ZEN RUN BAR in Nanjing Road, Shanghai.
After this experience I started to hear about a few similar scams in Shanghai, Beijing and even in Bangkok, Thailand; where my colleagues also had been fell in to. A lot of people are getting in to these traps but not everybody reveals it. All in all, its another lesson I 've learned, which I thought would be worth sharing. The places and situations you think safe aren't always safe. And for some silly reason I thought China was safe. Take Care.

2. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru, 1498 posts) 9 Nov '13 19:43

Honestly, are you for real?

Cheers,
Terry

3. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru, 3523 posts) 10 Nov '13 11:12

Quoting CheersT

Honestly, are you for real?
Cheers, Terry

Terry,
Can you imagine a young, pretty lady in: China, Thailand, VN, any SEA country or Las Vegas for that matter, taking advantage of a horny guy? I did not read the entire post, but perhaps some male TP member might not to be so naive when dealing with travel, alcohol & women. Or not. Guys have been making stupid decisions with women since the cave. Why expect a change now? My 2 cents.

4. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru, 1498 posts) 10 Nov '13 11:57

When a guy is in a foreign country getting a hand job in a bar all by himself in the middle of night how in the world can anyone be surprised when it goes sideways.

The Original Post isn't a warning about a travel scam and a reminder to use common sense or street smarts; it's a simple testament to stupidity.

Cheers,
Terry

5. Posted by Cyberia (Travel Guru, 1730 posts) 10 Nov '13 12:48

As soon as you said about a girl in her thirties who can speak English and is on the streets at night approached you, alarm bells went off. I, and I suspect most others here would have avoided her like the plague.

Few cities are safe after midnight. That is when criminals and prostitutes are about, and worse as you have found out.

These people robbed you. Nothing less. You were lucky to get your money back, and lucky not to have ended up in hospital or dead. I hope you have learned your lesson.

Don't judge Shanghai by this bad experience. Lots of us have had a good time there. There are criminals everywhere, and tourists usually have lots of money on them, so are prime targets whether for pick pockets or for scams.

6. Posted by Borisborough (Full Member, 167 posts) 10 Nov '13 19:14

Quoting CheersT

Honestly, are you for real?

Cheers,
Terry

Precisely! The naivety of some people is amazing. I don't think this is just a Shanghai problem - it probably happens in cities the world over - but only to the gullible. Put it down to experience and learn from this - don't fall for it again!

7. Posted by Cyberia (Travel Guru, 1730 posts) 11 Nov '13 06:25

Right. Siem Reap has a nasty card scam involving a woman of similar age, and a number of people have lost a few thousand dollars over it.

Most countries it is just pick pocketing.

8. Posted by Steve79 (Respected Member, 320 posts) 11 Nov '13 06:38

I don’t know whether the OP was for real or not, but reading this post certainly brightened up my afternoon!

9. Posted by wizzmor1977 (Full Member, 157 posts) 16 Nov '13 00:41

Real or not , this post is a reminder to all traveller's to stay vigilant.

lts very easy to condemn or look down your nose at OP because we'd not make that mistake ourself, but remember these forums are here to educate as well as inform. I know folk i wouldn't trust to cross the road by themself, but we still teach them the highway code.

Personally i spent 11 days in Shang Hai and encountered no problems, but in a place that has such a diversity in income and living conditions, the 'rich' westerner must seem fair game to hustlers, con artists and other confidence tricksters. As 1 or 2 of the above replies has suggested this sort of thing has been going on since day dot, logic and street smarts often go out the window when your head is being ruled by your little head. As a general rule of thumb, if something seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thats a rule for life not just travels.

Andy

10. Posted by wizzmor1977 (Full Member, 157 posts) 16 Nov '13 00:42

Real or not , this post is a reminder to all traveller's to stay vigilant.

lts very easy to condemn or look down your nose at OP because we'd not make that mistake ourself, but remember these forums are here to educate as well as inform. I know folk i wouldn't trust to cross the road by themself, but we still teach them the highway code.

Personally i spent 11 days in Shang Hai and encountered no problems, but in a place that has such a diversity in income and living conditions, the 'rich' westerner must seem fair game to hustlers, con artists and other confidence tricksters. As 1 or 2 of the above replies has suggested this sort of thing has been going on since day dot, logic and street smarts often go out the window when your head is being ruled by your little head. As a general rule of thumb, if something seems too good to be true, it usually is. Thats a rule for life not just travels.

Andy