What Is A Travel Style You Just Can't Wrap Your Head Around

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41. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 831 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting hasbeen

Nobody would pick anyone up if they did not want to so I never thought of it as sponging.

It was an adventure back then. In the 70's it was the hippie and free love era. (After my time - I was a beatnik and not a hippie) :)

Now it seems more like the no-money group feels entitled.

42. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1131 posts) 1y 1 Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

And people who stiff the workers by not tipping because they have some problem with the whole tipping culture.

Grrrr! Just like the fact that the ticket price in the US is not the price you have to pay at the till, so the restaurant price isn't the price you pay at the till either. There's tax, service charge and then you're expected to pay a tip on top of all that. I think most Brits would rather be told exactly what they have have to pay at the till and then decide whether or not they want the product.

I definitely disagree that it's the consumer that's stiffing the workers - it's the employer. Pay a fair wage for the work and reflect that in the cost price and then the consumer can have the option to tip or not.

I know the US operates this tipping culture and it's something I tolerate and feel obliged to be part of but don't like when I have visited there; does Canada too? Any other countries?

43. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1286 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

I feel the same way as Borisborough. I'll avoid tipping cultures, as they feel a rip-off and I'm constantly uncomfortable not knowing what I have to pay or am expected to pay.

That said I'm about to go to Canada, which I fear may be entirely infected with this American disease.

44. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting alessandro3

What Is A Travel Style You Just Can't Wrap Your Head Around

For me it is people who travel & expect the place they go to to be the same as home .. same food, same hygiene, same weather, same culture, same beer, same language. They complain about everything & can't wait to get home .. they should just stay at home.

45. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 363 posts) 1y 1 Star this if you like it!

I totally agree with Borisborough. It's a lousy, unfair marketing trick not to put the price on the tag or menu that the customer actually has to pay. In my country this procedere would be considered highly illegal and lead to severe consequences for the shop or restaurant in question.
If I go to the US I have to accept this system and adapt to it, but that does not mean I have to like it.

Back to the original question... A lot has already been mentioned. I'd add people who book tickets to a destination "because they are so cheap" and then ask if there is anything to do because they are too lazy to read and prepare.

But to each their own, as long as I do not have to join them on their trip.

46. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1286 posts) 1y 1 Star this if you like it!

Quoting Kathrin_E

people who book tickets to a destination "because they are so cheap" and then ask if there is anything to do because they are too lazy to read and prepare.

Ah, I'll do the first part - cheap tickets to somewhere random. But simply because I'm happy to see somewhere new. There may be no big tourist draws but there'll be stuff to see - in the park with the locals, architecture to see, old trams and buses. Getting a taste of life there is more interesting to me than the big hits, often.

I do the research so I don't miss anything special. But special to me may be a Russian orthodox church or a dilapidated art deco post office.

47. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 1061 posts) 1y 1 Star this if you like it!

Steve, I remember this comment by a fellow traveler on the road in Benin: "These houses are so drab, why don't they paint them?" referring to the houses made of mud.

Or this comment made by the same person to my friends: "You Canadians probably haven't heard of Janis Ian ...." My friends were insulted after numerous phrases like that.

Or the convenient lie when that person flooded a room: "It was the faulty air conditioner." My response: "It's not the air conditioner. You probably didn't know how to use the shower controls."

Or this: "Bob, will you wake me up in the mornings? I forgot my alarm clock."

Or this ritual at the breakfast table each morning: "Where's my omelet?!!!" No greeting to fellow travelers. No "Good morning, did you sleep well?"

Or, placing personal items on nearby seats as if to own them, declaring at the same time, "I have to sit in front for health reasons."

Clueless, self-centered travelers are the worst in my book, as are those who gossip.

On the other hand, I like traveling with people who have the spirit of adventure, are open-minded and nonjudgmental; are inclined to say "yes," rather than, "no;" and are willing to share and reach out. They gladly help watch your back.

But I have my faults, too. Once, a fellow traveler remarked to me, "Bob, I paid good money to come on this trip. I didn't pay to hear you talk." Nowadays, I'm more circumspect. I always think twice before saying something (do I really need to ask the guide this question?, etc.).

48. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting berner256

Or, placing personal items on nearby seats as if to own them, declaring at the same time, "I have to sit in front for health reasons."

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People who reserve loungers around the pool & then wander off for the day .. or the latest one I saw on a cruise where there was very limited seating, having a lounger in the sun & another in the shade, & alternate between the two .. a couple were doing that. I would make them walk the plank.

49. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 831 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting berner256


But I have my faults, too. Once, a fellow traveler remarked to me, "Bob, I paid good money to come on this trip. I didn't pay to hear you talk." Nowadays, I'm more circumspect. I always think twice before saying something (do I really need to ask the guide this question?, etc.).

OH That's me. On our last trip the guide asked my husband if I was a teacher (which I was) but I realized it was my cue to shut up. So I did.

I did once hear someone complain that the ATM in Cozumel was giving him pesos (instead of dollars) Duh.

Taxes are just something that people traveling to a decentralized place like the US and Canada are just going to have to deal with. It's part of doing your homework about a place - just like knowing that the currency change place at the airport may not give you the best rate. In the case of tipping, my main concern is that I don't know whether the amount I'm giving is appropriate. I rate the tipping problem right up there in annoyance with BARGAINING. I hate having to bargain for stuff. I don't like feeling that the vendor may be taking advantage of me - I am pretty sure that I will pay more than the item is really worth and that bothers me. I know some people love to bargain, but I do not. I will do it if I know that I should, but I really don't like to.

That brings up another travel method that I just do not like - people who complain about stuff until the company gives them free stuff to shut them up. Like people who take a cruise (oops - bad word), and then make a bogus complaint - they deliberately behave in a way that causes a problem so the cruise ship gives them back their fare.

[ Edit: Edited on 15-Jul-2017, at 06:49 by greatgrandmaR ]

50. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1131 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Andyf

Ah, I'll do the first part - cheap tickets to somewhere random.

I'm presently sitting in a guest house (yes, on the internet but...) in Rasdhoo, Maldives, having found cheap tickets (less then NZD1000 return with a side trip to Penang included) with Air Asia. We bought the tickets (for school holiday time too) and then researched what to do - I've just had my first open water dive down to 13 metres (40 feet in old money) - absolutely Brilliant!

Exactly as Andyf says, I'm always willing to travel somewhere new cheaply and enjoy what I can. Georgetown, Penang was brilliant for a couple of days (it's a WHS) and the Maldives have been sensational (although diving, snorkeling, water activities and island hopping is pretty much all there is to do - but they are good). There's no alcohol (fine!) and plenty of curries (even better) - Islam prevails here but that's what we expected so - great! :):):):):)

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