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11. Posted by akh42010 (Budding Member 11 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned it will be myself, my husband and our two sons. Also, money is not an issue, we have plenty of time to plan and save in the next 4 years before I plan on taking the trip, and my husband and I make more than your average couple. Again, I particularly want to circumnavigate the globe and want to hit all of the continents just for funsies. The list includes highlights of what each of us would like to see. We're also very high-energy people as a whole, we camp and hike and enjoy entertaining, and I just don't want us to get bored. curious as to why Stockholm not working was mentioned? And comments simply stating won't happen are super unhelpful, thanks. Mad shout out to the one person that says do what I want, much love.

12. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 1527 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

I'm not trying to be unhelpful. I'm just trying to be realistic. There have been a lot of helpful suggestions already on this and the previous thread. But you seem to be wedded to the original itinerary, or a version thereof. Perhaps you should do some actual planning (the devil is in the details), then come back for some help in the weeks, months and years ahead. Right now, it's just pie in the sky, in my opinion. I regularly circumnavigate the globe; and I am doing so now. What you have laid out just doesn't make sense, as others have opined as well.

13. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 671 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Sorry but - your entire plan is unrealistic. It makes no sense to enter a discussion about details. You have to change your entire approach and replan from scratch.

Have you ever done a reality check, for example checked how long it will actually take to get from Rome to Florence, Naples and Venice - three large cities far apart from each other that you intend to cover together with Rome in a total of merely three days? Even for Rome alone, a stay of three days would be rather short. Travelling with children means you'll be even slower than a single adult traveller.

So indeed, this is not going to work. Saying this is the only true help we can provide at this stage. Unless, since you boast so much about your financial situation, you hire a private jet plane and pilot for the whole duration of your trip. And even then it would be horribly rushed.

14. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

The idea of one day in a place being nonsense is .. nonsense. I do it all the time & it is fine for me. I could, of course, spend a life-time in one place & not see it all . . but that's the point . . one can never see it all & there is only 24 hours in a day, so what does it matter to stay a short time.

My TP blog is choc-a-bloc with one day at a time trips .. most were just great & some a little too long.

Steve

15. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

There are also Round the World Cruises .. Holland & America from USA is 111 or so days but segments are also available .. I did 2 segments . . New Zealand to Athens about 60 days .. it was wonderful. The five or 6 youngsters on the whole RTW had a fantastic time .. had a classroom & did lessons by the pool. What an education that must have been.

The Cape to Beijing & the Cape to Dover were superb.

Join all my cruises together & I have cruised around the world .. taking about 7 years though.

Dover to Dover via the Baltic was a fabulous way to get a glimpse of St. Petersburg & no visa needed .. although the trip to Moscow did need a visa.

Long & short cruises are a great way to see the world without the aggravation of airports & planes .. in something approaching comfort .. ok, a lot of comfort.

Prices for 3 & 4th person in a cabin are surprising .. next to nothing sometimes

Something else for you to consider .

Steve

16. Posted by akh42010 (Budding Member 11 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Thank you Steve. I thought about taking a cruise around the Mediterranean once we get there, looks cool and they have 10 to 14 day trips hitting a lot of the major ports. And I planned on taking a boat in to St Petersburg after you suggested it, sounds great. None of the side trips would be set in stone, we like to plan as we go and won't be too worried if we miss something given that we'll see the major attractions for us (i.e. the Egyptian Pyramids, Machu Picchu, Great Wall of China). Also this one seemed to be much more realistic then the last itinerary, considering I added full days in between for travel... funny that I'm getting more sass on this one...?

17. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2083 posts) 4y 1 Star this if you like it!

Quoting akh42010

Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned it will be myself, my husband and our two sons. Also, money is not an issue, we have plenty of time to plan and save in the next 4 years before I plan on taking the trip, and my husband and I make more than your average couple. Again, I particularly want to circumnavigate the globe and want to hit all of the continents just for funsies. The list includes highlights of what each of us would like to see. We're also very high-energy people as a whole, we camp and hike and enjoy entertaining, and I just don't want us to get bored. curious as to why Stockholm not working was mentioned? And comments simply stating won't happen are super unhelpful, thanks. Mad shout out to the one person that says do what I want, much love.

If you really plan to circumnavigate the globe in a single two month time being bored won't be a problem. But if you don't want to be like the people in the film "If this is Tuesday it must be Belgium", then you need to pare down the number of places you are going. It is possible to be in a place for one day. I've done it. But I was mostly traveling by myself and I was an adult. You really can't do too much of that with children even when they are the kind of kid that can sleep anywhere, and will eat anything.

My high energy mother took my children on trips with her. She did a 6 week trip with my very high energy daughter. They started out in Germany, went to Berlin, east Germany (this was in 1976 when my mother was 66 and my daughter was 13) and almost got arrested for taking a photo of the 'wall' from inside east Germany, Austria (my daughter went to the salt mines), Paris (which my daughter didn't care for), London, Stratford and saw a Shakespeare play which she loved, went to Edinburgh and took a tour which included Wales and Bath, and then got on the QEII and sailed home. Six weeks was too long for my daughter to be with her grandmother.

The seven continents alphabetically - Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, South America. You probably aren't going to get to Antarctica.

I really think it would be better to start out going east. Do Peru while you are still acclimated to the altitude. And then go to Australia- New Zealand, do something in Asia (I'd recommend the Great Wall to go with Machu Picchu), Egypt, And spend what time is left over in Europe.

Plan all the things you'd like to see in each place and make a priority list.

So for example in London, you might want to see Big Ben, the Tower of London, the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace and the Millennium Wheel. Big Ben can be viewed very quickly. The Tower tour and the Crown Jewels will take a couple of hours. Ditto standing in line for the Millennium Wheel (the wheel itself doesn't take long). The changing of the guard is fairly short but you have to go early to get a place. If you want to take a day trip to Glasgow, that might be on the B list.

Then fit the things on the A list into your time there, and then if you have time do the B list. When I was in London for four days with my grandson, we did a Big Bus tour (saw Buckingham Palace and Big Ben), took the tour of the Tower, went up in Tower Bridge, took a boat ride down the Thames, went to three plays, and shopped at Harrods and went to Madame Tussaud's (which we both thought was lame and I don't recommend). We didn't spend a lot of time sitting around, but we didn't have time for the Millennium Wheel.

[ Edit: Edited on 01-Aug-2017, at 09:32 by greatgrandmaR ]

18. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2083 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting akh42010

Thank you Steve. I thought about taking a cruise around the Mediterranean once we get there, looks cool and they have 10 to 14 day trips hitting a lot of the major ports. And I planned on taking a boat in to St Petersburg after you suggested it, sounds great. None of the side trips would be set in stone, we like to plan as we go and won't be too worried if we miss something given that we'll see the major attractions for us (i.e. the Egyptian Pyramids, Machu Picchu, Great Wall of China). Also this one seemed to be much more realistic then the last itinerary, considering I added full days in between for travel... funny that I'm getting more sass on this one...?

The visa for St Pete will not be taken care of by just getting there by boat.

I took a Baltic cruise with my granddaughter - we started in Copenhagen (we did a tour of the city and went to Tivoli), and got on board the ship which went to Estonia, and spent 2 days in St Petersburg. The ship tours automatically had visas, or you could take private tours which would also give visas. But you have to be on a ship which will acquire the visas for you. After Russia we went to Helsinki, Stockholm, Berlin, Aarhus and Oslo and then got off in Rotterdam. We visited Amsterdam and then went home. Except for the beginning and end of the trip on our own, and Russia we were in each place just one day, but the travel arrangements were done for us. The boat traveled at night. There was no packing and unpacking or going to the airport - all the meals were included.

19. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

Quoting akh42010

And I planned on taking a boat in to St Petersburg after you suggested it, sounds great.

The visa for St Pete will not be taken care of by just getting there by boat.

.

Here are the visa free rules as supplied by Viator ( there are other sources such as St. Peter line & I also hear elsewhere on TP that the stated requirement to be on a tour as well is not absolute.)

https://www.viator.com/tours/Helsinki/Day-Tour-from-Helsinki-to-Saint-Petersburg-without-a-Russian-visa/d803-13975P25/important-info

Steve

Ps . here's the TP thread I wrote about above http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=110037 .. .be sure to read it all

[ Edit: Edited on 01-Aug-2017, at 10:06 by hasbeen ]

20. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting akh42010

Thank you Steve. I thought about taking a cruise around the Mediterranean once we get there, looks cool and they have 10 to 14 day trips hitting a lot of the major ports. And I planned on taking a boat in to St Petersburg after you suggested it, sounds great. None of the side trips would be set in stone, we like to plan as we go and won't be too worried if we miss something given that we'll see the major attractions for us (i.e. the Egyptian Pyramids, Machu Picchu, Great Wall of China). Also this one seemed to be much more realistic then the last itinerary, considering I added full days in between for travel... funny that I'm getting more sass on this one...?

I went to Machu Pichu too .. from a cruise, of course .. ( starting in Lima here on my Blogo ) Scheduled to be 3 nights / four days, but docking was delayed due to fog & the excursion was almost cancelled. But Princess got us there & back safely in a whirlwind trip .. rescheduled hotels & flights etc. amazing.

Cairo was cancelled due to there being a revolution at the time & we could not dock but the revolution calmed down enough for us to visit Luxor.
Saw two sections of the Great wall .. with a cruise . . one section was almost empty & the other packed with tourists .. mostly Chinese tourist.

Steve