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31. Posted by Teoni (Travel Guru 1749 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

I am hearing from a lot of people to spend more time in New Zealand and Australia

New Zealand is best done if you can rent a car and drive around. If you like hiking NZ is the perfect place for it. For Australia it would depend when you want to travel. If you go in Australia's summer months the north of the country can be unpredictable. Lots of rain, storms and sites can be closed down. The north is best done in Australia's winter months. The southern part of the country I personally love in spring. The weather is mild and with shoulder season the prices are cheap, though summer is pretty good for Tasmania. If you plan on being in Sydney only you should make the time to see the Blue Mountains, Jenolan Caves, explore some of the Central Coast and Lake Macquarie region and the drive down to Wollongong is really nice. If you like hiking apart from the Blue Moutains the Royal National Park has a really good coastal walk.

[ Edit: Edited on 01-Aug-2017, at 19:59 by Teoni ]

32. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2099 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting hasbeen

With all this advice about what you should not do, I have lost track of the advice about what you do want to do .. please remind me.

Steve

I'm not her, but I think I know what she wants to do - go around the world and visit 6 continents in two months four years from now with two boys. And see the big sites like the Great Wall of China, the pyramids (of Egypt) etc.

My parents traveled with my sister and me. The first trip I really remember, we drove from Maryland out to visit our grandmother in Colorado - I was 10 and my sister was 8. We camped and stayed in tourist homes (this was 1948).

Two years later, they took us to Europe. We left on a ship on June 9 (which took care of jet lag because we didn't fly in those days), we visited Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Germany (where we met some of Daddy's relatives and also stayed with friends of my parents - he was in the Army and was stationed there and he had a car and could drive us around), Austria, Switzerland, Paris (for a week), London, Oxford (for a week), and we rented a car and drove up to Edinburgh. We were on our way home on the ship by July 30th. Counting the time on the ship coming and going, this is more than 7 weeks. This was a nice trip. We had some down time - when we stayed with Uncle Bob and Auntie Peg, it was sort of American, and in England we could speak the language so it wasn't terribly stressful and we could decompress on the ship. My mother took us to have lessons in French (Berlitz) before we went so we knew some of what we saw and heard meant. She could speak some French and my father spoke German before he spoke English. My mother also pretended that she could not tell what subway train to take to get to various places and we (my sister and I) had to work out which trains to take. She also made us figure out how much things cost in $$s. We met fellow Girl Scouts in the different countries. So we were engaged with the trip. We each had some money to spend for ourselves. And my mother was very organized and she and my dad were both really good teachers

We went on other trips after that, but mostly driving up and down the east coast.

So I think this trip is a good idea and it will be a good time (age-wise) for them to do it.

But you may not be restricted to traveling with your kids when they are pre-high school (before they start driving and dating). After my sister and I were married, our parents would travel to where we were. My parents went to Germany twice when my sister's husband was stationed there, and when my husband was changing duty stations from Monterey to Key West, my parents came out to California and drove across with us. And then after my dad died (in 1973), my mother started taking her grandchildren on trips with her - she even took me on one trip.

33. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting akh42010

Thank you Steve. I thought about taking a cruise around the Mediterranean once we get there, looks cool and they have 10 to 14 day trips hitting a lot of the major ports. And I planned on taking a boat in to St Petersburg after you suggested it, sounds great. None of the side trips would be set in stone, we like to plan as we go and won't be too worried if we miss something given that we'll see the major attractions for us (i.e. the Egyptian Pyramids, Machu Picchu, Great Wall of China). Also this one seemed to be much more realistic then the last itinerary, considering I added full days in between for travel... funny that I'm getting more sass on this one...?

Another thing you might consider is river cruises. I have done three in SE Asia & they are another great way to get a glimpse of places. Whereas an Ocean voyage with lots of ports will sail overnight from port to port a river cruise tends to float along during the day .. at least mine did, perhaps it is different in Europe. Every day is another place to get off & I found that a bit too intense .. I like sea days to recover. There are river cruises between Amsterdam on the North Sea to the Black Sea which would nicely move you along you east to west or vice versa. I know Istanbul is not favoured at the moment but it is a wonderful city, being almost on the Black Sea & a bridge between Europe & Asia . Some river cruises carry their own pedal bikes & that might suit your family as a way to explore the areas.

I am surprised you choose Bali over Angkor Wat but Indonesia has it's own Angkor Wat at Borobudur . . somewhere I had never heard of but was a great place to visit.

GreatgrandmaR thinks you are not visiting Africa but you do have Cairo on your list & last time I looked that was still in Africa although your map has it positioned north of Crete .. perhaps it has moved.

Steve

34. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2099 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Steve, I missed Cairo on the list as I was thinking Kenya (where my mother took my son).

In the case of this trip, a cruise would be one way of avoiding jet lag if it didn't take too much time out of the trip. If you just want one day in each place this is an easy way to do it.

And it is perfectly possible to do part of a cruise (as long as the cruise does not start in the USA). So the cruise I did with my granddaughter that started in Denmark and went to Tallinn, St. Petersburg Helsinki and Stockholm would be 6 days (we were in St Pete for 2 days) and they could get off in Stockholm and go to the next segment. I did a cruise with a grandson that did Barcelona, Rome, Naples and Venice. There was a sea day between Barcelona and Rome, and one between Naples and Venice, so that would be 6 days (4 days if they started in Rome).

I don't think a cruise would be the way to visit Machu Picchu because it would be easy enough for them to fly down from the US, and they actually go east one time zone, so no jet lag. It would be a good idea to do this early in the trip anyway (assuming that they go in the USA summer) as the seasons there are opposite. So if they go in late may or early June, that will be fall in Peru. They can go from Lima to Auckland (via Santiago) and the flight from Santiago to Auckland will be only 13 hours. They can get that recovery from jet lag over with in an English speaking country.

35. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 1377 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

OK I'm going to wade in, and I'm sorry, but I'm adding my voice to the "not realistic" camp. Here are some thoughts on some of your proposals:

- One Day Travel -
Possible free stop off in Iceland - 1 (maybe)
If it's free, why not, although the best of Iceland needs a day's travel from the airport - but you'd get a flavour
- One Day Travel -
London (trips to Glasgow, Paris, possibly Manchester, Amsterdam, Brussels, Dubin, others) - 7
You need seven days ideally to see London but I accept this isn't that sort of trip; however to consider side trips to more than two other cities is not really feasible. In seven days I would suggest 3 days to see the main London highlights (and maybe a half day side trip to Windsor Castle?), a morning to travel to Paris, see some sights, stay 2 nights (giving you 1.5 days there), then go on from there to Italy rather than returning to London. But if you really want to go to Scotland too, I would recommend Edinburgh rather than Glasgow and take the train from London, as the northern part of the journey is wonderful. Is flying into Edinburgh rather than London feasible I wonder?
- One Day Travel -
Rome (trips to Florence/Pisa, Naples, possibly Venice) - 3
You could probably do a day trip to Naples from Rome but not all of these!
- One Day Travel -
Cairo, Egypt - 2
Sounds OK if all you want to see are the pyramids and the museum with Tutankhamun treasures
- One Day Travel -
Helsinki, FInland (trips to St Petersburg,Russia, Stockholm, Sweeden, possibly Tallinn, Estonia, others) - 4
Two of those other cities maximum. I'm not an expert on the Russian visa situation so take advice from those above who are. As an alternative, consider pairing Tallinn with Riga in Latvia. There are buses between them (c 5 hours) so four days for the two cities is feasible. And from what I have heard about Helsinki, both are nicer and more interesting, and you avoid the visa issues
- One Day Travel -
Beijing (trips to great wall, The Palace, temples) - 4
This sounds realistic
- One Day Travel -
Bali, Indonesia (trips to Goa Gajah, Sacred Monkey Forest Sactuary, temples) - 4
Sounds realistic based on my very limited experience of that region
- One Day Travel -
Chrischurch, New Zealand (trip to Sydney, Auckland) - 4
You already have lots of advice on this segment and I don't know NZ at all so will leave it to others!
- One Day Travel -
Cusco/Machu Pichu,Peru - 4
Bear in mind that you will need at least one day to acclimatise to high altitudes before attempting any sightseeing
- One Day Travel -
Oranjestad, Aruba - 3
- One Day Travel -

36. Posted by akh42010 (Budding Member 11 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Love the idea of a river cruise! Not sure my husband would go for Istanbul though, he's slightly less adventurous than I am. We're splitting up languages and cultures to learn for our trip, as a way to immerse the children further. My oldest son will learn some Chinese and some Balinese to communicate for us and will learn some of their traditions and cultural norms so that we can be polite. My husband is going to learn some Russian and some Swedish, perhaps some Finnish and some of their traditions and cultural norms. My youngest son will learn some Spanish and some Peruvian culture and traditions, and I will fill in the blanks in Europe and down in New Zealand/Australia. I'm also going to find somewhere for us to volunteer at least twice during the trip, maybe in Bali (or a short trip form there) and Peru. I have decided to meet in the middle on length of time, will just add some time on to the larger stops like New Zealand, London and Peru. Make it more like 50 days, I think it will be fine at that length and with plenty of time to rest and adjust (plenty of time for us anyway).

37. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2099 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting akh42010

Love the idea of a river cruise! Not sure my husband would go for Istanbul though, he's slightly less adventurous than I am.

The cruise we took (Barcelona to Venice) actually went on to Athens and ended in Istanbul. We didn't do that segment because I only had spring break with him as he was so heavily into sports that no other time than spring break would work. It wasn't a river cruise though. The one river cruise we did (Netherlands to see the tulips) was way too strenuous for us. We had to opt out of some of the activities because we were just too exhausted to do them. We did not walk up the big hill at the end of one day, and my husband had some intestinal issues and so did not go to Kinderdijk and I had already been once and the weather was bad (it was sleeting) so I didn't go either. They did have bikes on board.

I can't think of a good place for your purposes to do a river cruise in Europe - maybe China would be good for that. You might look at AmaWaterways for ideas.

Quoting akh42010

We're splitting up languages and cultures to learn for our trip, as a way to immerse the children further. My oldest son will learn some Chinese and some Balinese to communicate for us and will learn some of their traditions and cultural norms so that we can be polite. My husband is going to learn some Russian and some Swedish, perhaps some Finnish and some of their traditions and cultural norms. My youngest son will learn some Spanish and some Peruvian culture and traditions, and I will fill in the blanks in Europe and down in New Zealand/Australia. I'm also going to find somewhere for us to volunteer at least twice during the trip, maybe in Bali (or a short trip form there) and Peru. I have decided to meet in the middle on length of time, will just add some time on to the larger stops like New Zealand, London and Peru. Make it more like 50 days, I think it will be fine at that length and with plenty of time to rest and adjust (plenty of time for us anyway).

Really good planning. Most nordic countries people will speak English. The main problem will be with reading the signs.

38. Posted by hasbeen (Travel Guru 1260 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Looks like London will be a stop , . what to do in London?

You are spoiled for choice but since you have so much time to plan you can consider the Ceremony of the Keys .. the ceremonial locking up of the Tower of London.
It has been happening just about every night for 700 years so chances are good it will still be happening in 5 years time.

And definitely look into getting an Oyster Card .. the London tube & bus pass. London is a very walkable city but it is great to have the means to jump on any bus or dive down into to the tube without concern for foreign money & buying tickets. Visit Britain explains it well & those prices may not have doubled by the time you get there but I doubt it.

Steve

39. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 1377 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Quoting hasbeen

And definitely look into getting an Oyster Card .. the London tube & bus pass. London is a very walkable city but it is great to have the means to jump on any bus or dive down into to the tube without concern for foreign money & buying tickets. Visit Britain explains it well & those prices may not have doubled by the time you get there but I doubt it.

Steve

Getting an Oyster card is a good suggestion but not from Visit Britain. Those visitor cards have a fee built in, which you can avoid if you wait to purchase your cards when you get here. You can get them at the Underground ticket office at the airport station and either pay as you go (link them to a credit or debit card) or pre-load with a travelcard. Nearer the time I'd be happy to advise which would be best for you (depending on current fares at the time and your detailed plans) but if you only plan to spend a couple of days then pay as you go is almost certain to be best. Alternatively, if you have a contactless debit card you can use that like an Oyster so no need to get one at all - but at present I don't think those have reached the US?

A better website to use for info on travel in London is the official one, Transport for London. Oyster card info is here: https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/oyster?intcmp=1683. And current fare info here: https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares?intcmp=1648

40. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2099 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

I think it is too early to worry about specifics like the Oyster card