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1. Posted by Livikingan (Budding Member 3 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Hello,
I am thinking of living in London for 6-8 months - Ideally I would like to work in my field (Makeup Artistry/Retail) but I am also interested in furthering my education at one of the many prestigious makeup schools in the city. My father was born in the UK so I am eligible for dual citizenship, and I would have family to stay with while in London to save money. Would it be wiser to apply for some sort of visa as opposed to trying to get citizenship? Planning on leaving in the next 6 months. Any information and advice is welcome!!!

Thanks! :)

2. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 994 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Stating your current citizenship would help enormously in answering your question.

3. Posted by Livikingan (Budding Member 3 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Oops! I am a US Citizen

[ Edit: Edited on 20-Aug-2017, at 22:17 by Livikingan ]

4. Posted by CheersT (Inactive 2578 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Ditto Borisborough.

Like so many people asking question about Immigration/Visas you neglect the single most important piece of information: Your nationality.

Cheers,
Terry

5. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 294 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Everything you need to know about visa types is on this official government website:

https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa

As a US citizen you will be allowed to stay in the UK for a maximum of 6 months with no visa, as long as border officers do not suspect that a) you cannot support yourself for that time and b) intend to work. As a US citizen you cannot work in the UK without the appropriate visa other than in very, very specific circumstances, all of which are detailed on the site above.

I'd note that the areas of work you mention are already over-subscribed here and are certainly not well-paid. I'd strongly advise against working illegally on a tourist visa. If caught (and the chances of that are pretty high..the UK is a small country with a lot of rules) you are likely to be deported and face substantial difficulty in returning.

If you want to study in the UK, use the site above to find out what visa (if any) and documentation you will need.

If you want to live & work in the UK for a longer period you would do better pursue your British citizenship, register it and get a UK passport, though doing this will almost certainly affect the date you can leave the US. These official sites will help:

https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen

https://www.gov.uk/register-british-citizen/born-before-2006-british-father

[ Edit: Edited on 20-Aug-2017, at 23:22 by leics2 ]

6. Posted by Livikingan (Budding Member 3 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

@leics2 If I was to get dual citizenship would I still need to obtain a separate working permit?

7. Posted by puppa17 (Budding Member 66 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Citizenship! More advantages and sometimes college or diplomas are cheaper for UKs

8. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 294 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

>@leics2 If I was to get dual citizenship would I still need to obtain a separate working permit?

If you have a UK passport and use it to enter the UK you do not need a work or student visa. But you must seek proper advice about this. I don't mean advice from an internet forum, I mean advice from official authorities.

As far as I know you cannot use your US passport to leave the US, fly to the UK and then enter the UK with your UK passport. You must use the same passport to leave and to enter. I do not know what consequences that may have when you return because all UK citizens must have either a visa or a visa-waiver (ESTA) to visit the US.

The US government does not 'encourage' dual nationality (their word). Start by reading this:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

Applying for and gaining dual nationality, let alone getting a UK passport, will take time. To be honest, I think you would be more sensible to either a) get a place at 'make-up school' and a UK student visa or b) try for a UK work permit (though I think it's pretty unlikely you'll get one, given that your skills are already over-subscribed in this country) or c) just visit as an ordinary visitor for a month or two. If you've never been to the UK, or have only visited as a child, it makes most sense to visit for a short time to find out whether you can actually see yourself living and working here. ...and whether it is feasible to do so (find out about wages, rents, cost of living etc etc).

[ Edit: Edited on 24-Aug-2017, at 00:33 by leics2 ]

9. Posted by CheersT (Inactive 2578 posts) 43w 1 Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

As far as I know you cannot use your US passport to leave the US, fly to the UK and then enter the UK with your UK passport. You must use the same passport to leave and to enter. I do not know what consequences that may have when you return because all UK citizens must have either a visa or a visa-waiver (ESTA) to visit the US.

It's no problems whatsoever travelling with two passports, you simply enter/exit a country using the same passport (in order to appear correctly in their Immigration database) then use the second passport elsewhere if it gives you some other advantage.

For example, exit the US on your US Passport, enter the UK with your UK Passport, exit the UK on your UK Passport,then use your US Passport to re-enter the US and go home. Lots of people travel with dual passports, airlines and immigration are very used to seeing this.

Cheers,
Terry

10. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 294 posts) 43w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for that, Terry. I amaware that numerous people have dual citizenships and more than one passport but, having not been in that situation, was not entirely sure how it might work US>UK>US.

Does API affect this? On the outward flight I assume one gives the passport info which relates to the passport one intends to use to enter the country of arrival...but, in this situation, the return flight is of course different. Does that cause any issues?

[ Edit: Edited on 24-Aug-2017, at 02:23 by leics2 ]