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1. Posted by yoshimidiana (Budding Member 12 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

I've just made the decision with my roommate that when our lease here in LA is up in May, we are selling everything and will move into a furnished apartment in a city in Europe for 3 months, then keep moving to a new country every 3 months! We're both single, no kids, so we just decided WHY NOT?!! WE ARE SO EXCITED!!!! I would love to do this for at least a year or two, so a lot of cities to see, and new people to meet!
Here are some cities that we are considering to move to:
-London
-Rome
-Barcelona
-Perth (or Melbourne)
-Athens
-Amsterdam
-Capetown
-Edinburg
-Prague
-Dubai

So around June 1 we will be leaving, does anyone have recommendations on where to move to first? Or any other cities that would be fun to live in? Etc?
We want to avoid cold weather! So we want to live in the colder cities that we want to see during their summer. We also don't really like rain. And we are both runners, so any cities that you can easily and safely run would be amazing for us!

2. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 341 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

The destinations in Europe will need clever planning. They cannot be done one after the other. Please read about the keyword "Schengen" (unless you both hold an EU citizenship, that is).

3. Posted by yoshimidiana (Budding Member 12 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

I don't! We're both US citizens.. would we have a time limit on how long we could stay in each place? Do you think London first, then Paris then Rome work?

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Sep-2017, at 12:09 by yoshimidiana ]

4. Posted by yoshimidiana (Budding Member 12 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

Ahhh I think I understand.. so the UK is not Schengen, but both France and Italy are, so we would have to stagger London in between two Schengen countries.. is that how it works?

5. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5275 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

You're only allowed 90 days out of any given 180 day period (with a sliding window, so no tricky timing to work around it) inside pretty much the entire EU, plus assorted associated countries, minus the UK (the "Schengen zone"). Arrival and departure days count fully. 89 days Paris, 90 days London, 90 days Rome would work, but London first followed by Paris and Rome wouldn't.

6. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 341 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

It is. France, Italy, Spain, Greece, Czech Republic, The Netherlands are all Schengen states so you must insert a 90 day stay elsewhere between each of these.

Do your maths well. The limit is 90 days out of 180 - 90 days are a bit less than 3 months.

7. Posted by yoshimidiana (Budding Member 12 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

Ahhh got it! So if we were to do 89 days Paris, 90 days London, 90 days Rome, then 90 days Ireland, we could come back to another Schengen zone country? And do you know if we can go on doing this for as long as we want?

8. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5275 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

Quoting yoshimidiana

Ahhh got it! So if we were to do 89 days Paris, 90 days London, 90 days Rome, then 90 days Ireland, we could come back to another Schengen zone country?

Ireland is Schengen as well, so no on the specifics, but yes on the general idea.
Hrm, looks like I'm actually wrong there about Ireland. Whoops. That means just yes. :)

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Sep-2017, at 12:28 by Sander ]

9. Posted by yoshimidiana (Budding Member 12 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

I'm confused about:
"Do your maths well. The limit is 90 days out of 180 - 90 days are a bit less than 3 months."

and:
"You're only allowed 90 days out of any given 180 day period (with a sliding window, so no tricky timing to work around it)"

Does this mean that we would need to stay in the UK for over 90 days to make it work?

10. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1165 posts) 51w Star this if you like it!

Repeated flipping between Schengen and the Common Travel Area (ie Britain and Ireland) is likely to draw attention of immigration officers. You're subject to their whims, and can be asked to show funds to support yourself, onward flight ticket. They may also get the notion that you could be working illegally to fund your trip.

However, a plus point is that US citizens get 6 months in the UK, allowing you to use it as a shelter from the Schengen 90/180 day limits.

There are also eastern European countries outwith Schengen, mostly in the Balkans.