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1. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

I was looking at ticket information on the internet and there was a fare price that was one that you had to call to get. When I called it sounded like a boiler room operation and the girl said that fare was no longer available. So I hung up.

I want to buy some tickets but the routing is complicated. The travel agent I talked to does not work on the weekend. Does anyone have a good travel agent (in the US preferably) who could help me buy tickets. I'm flying from Houston to Amsterdam to Tanzania and back.

2. Posted by Teoni (Respected Member 405 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

Are you trying to get it all in one ticket? Perhaps booking as seperate routes would be easier? I had a quick look online and the routing doesn't seem all that complicated. There doesn't seem to be any direct flights from Amsterdam to Dar Es Salaam or Dodoma, (you can go non stop to Kilimanjaro though) you have to go either via somewhere but transit stops aren't all that unusual.

[ Edit: Edited on 30-Sep-2017, at 18:31 by Teoni ]

3. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 859 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

There are direct flights from Abu Dhabi and Dubai to Dar Es Salaam if you can get to the UAE easily. And there are certainly flights from Amsterdam to Dar Es Salaam that stop just once at Kilimanjaro (perfect for the mountain and for Serengeti & Ngorongoro) operated jointly by KLM & Kenya Airways. Have a look on Skyscanner.

4. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

I want to go from Houston to Amsterdam and spend a few days there recovering from jet lag (which gets harder as I get older). And then I want to fly from Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. Then I want to fly back to Houston. I really don't want a lot of chopping and changing. I would prefer a non-stop flight. If I ask for Kilimanjaro to Houston, I get a layover in DAR for 12 hours.

I have been looking on ITA. I will try Skyscanner

5. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

Skyscanner gives me more expensive flights than ITA - the cheapest is on Turkish Airlines and they have a stop in Istanbul on each flight.

6. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 939 posts) 20w 1 Star this if you like it!

You should consider flying from IAH to AMS to JRO on KLM (three nonstops).

http://www.flightconnections.com/

Going home, there are two stops, DAR and AMS, with relatively decent layovers (same flight from JRO to AMS, no change of aircraft in DAR).

A sample from Google.com/flights:

Flight 1: Houston – Amsterdam
Tue, Oct 17

3:05 PM – 7:15 AM+1
Houston (IAH) – Amsterdam (AMS)
KLM 662 · Economy Class · Boeing 747
Average legroom (31")
Overnight flight
9h 10m
On-demand video
No Wi-Fi
No in-seat power
Flight 2: Amsterdam – Mount Kilimanjaro
Tue, Oct 24

10:25 AM – 7:50 PM
Amsterdam (AMS) – Mount Kilimanjaro (JRO)
KLM 571 · Economy Class · Boeing 777
Average legroom (31")
8h 25m
In-seat & USB power
On-demand video
No Wi-Fi
Flight 3: Mount Kilimanjaro – Houston
Tue, Oct 31

9:45 PM – 10:45 PM
Mount Kilimanjaro (JRO) – Dar es Salaam (DAR)
KLM 571 · Economy Class · Boeing 777
Average legroom (31")
1h 00m
In-seat & USB power
On-demand video
No Wi-Fi
Layover in Dar es Salaam DAR1h 10m

11:55 PM – 7:10 AM+1
Dar es Salaam (DAR) – Amsterdam (AMS)
KLM 571 · Economy Class · Boeing 777
Average legroom (31")
Overnight flight
9h 15m
In-seat & USB power
On-demand video
No Wi-Fi
Layover in Amsterdam AMS2h 55m

10:05 AM+1 – 2:35 PM+1
Amsterdam (AMS) – Houston (IAH)
KLM 661 · Economy Class · Boeing 747
Average legroom (31")
Often delayed by 30+ min
10h 30m
On-demand video
No Wi-Fi
No in-seat power
Ads
Book, track or share this flight
Total incl taxes & fees for 1 adult · Additional bag fees may apply.
$1,397
Book with KLM
KL 662, KL 571, KL 571, KL 571, KL 661
$1,973
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Marketed as DL 9387, KL 571, DL 9349, DL 9349, DL 9386

7. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

Yes I like those flights, but I want to fly the overnight legs in a reclining seat., which means Business class or first class. That makes the flights cost more than the land portion. I will pay that if I have to but I would rather not.

8. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

I can't delete the double post

[ Edit: Edited on 01-Oct-2017, at 07:46 by greatgrandmaR ]

9. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 939 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

The routing is not complicated. The flights shown in the example are quite good in that they will get you to your destinations as expeditiously as possible.

But now you've introduced a new wrinkle: A desire to fly first class or business class and not wanting to pay the higher fare. Why not redeem some of your frequent flier miles, or talk to your trusted travel agent to find a consolidator fare for you?

See this link: https://www.smartertravel.com/2017/06/19/airline-consolidators/

If you're concerned about jet lag, Amsterdam is one hour behind the time in Kilimanjaro (JRO). Amsterdam is seven hours ahead of the time in Houston. It usually takes one day to adjust for each time zone crossed, more or less.

[ Edit: Edited on 01-Oct-2017, at 09:37 by berner256 ]

10. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Respected Member 473 posts) 20w Star this if you like it!

I don't have a trusted travel agent for air fares. She said she would call me back Friday and she did not.

I don't mind paying a higher fare for the better seats but I don't want it to be so high that I have to take out a second mortgage. That is I don't mind paying $5000.00 each (plus or minus), but I don't want to pay double that.

I am concerned about jet lag, but if I can sleep on the plane, it won't be so bad. I've done Baltimore to Amsterdam fairly recently, and did not have that much problem with jet lag, and I figure I won't be in Houston long enough to worry about that extra hour.