Venice - Over crowdedness Solution

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1. Posted by Pizza123 (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Dear fellow travellers,

I am an undergraduate university student completing a research assignment on digital innovation solution for over-crowdedness due to tourism in Venice.

I will create an app which will have the following:

- The app will open and language can be selected and you can select whether you are a local or a tourist so that it is tailored to needs.
- After selecting language, the app will show restaurants icon, tourist sites and facilities such as toilets and transport.
o There will be an interactive map showing facilities and quickest ways to get around without facing over-crowded areas and reducing traffic. This is both for the locals and tourists.
o Adverts from local restaurants which have offers at off peak timing so that tourists are encouraged to visit restaurants and popular sites at quieter times as oppose to busy times therefore reducing overcrowding.
o There will also be offers on Vaparettos so that tourists are using public transport as oppose to private Gandolas which can increase traffic.

This is the solution I have proposed. I would much appreciate any feedback on this.

2. Posted by Nisaaa (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

I like this idea. I like how it is a very 21st century concept; everyone has a smartphone so accessibility is already not an issue. Different languages make it easier to use and allows a large number of us tourists to be able to use this in a way that it easy to me.

I like the idea of how everything is in one place which makes it easier than opening up different apps for stuff e.g. google maps for a map, just eat or trip advisor for food etc. This makes it easy to use!

In the past I've had terrible experience with toilets, so consider having a toilet attendant to ensure these are maintained, as toilets can be left soiled and in other unused states, making it difficult for tourists like myself to go and use these, especially if not staying on the mainland hotels - due to their ridiculously high prices.

As for restaurants, what are they to gain from this? Prices for food will still be of a high price, so what would it mean for them? also, how would this benefit a tourist like me? maybe consider a tourist discount if we come at off peak times, as you mention?

I've seen when I went last year that vaparettos are good with directions - it is clear where there is a stop and what the name is of the stop. ideal if you are a new traveller

very thoughtful how you consider the invasion of locals by the high number of tourists that outweigh them. vaparettos would also carry more people, meaning more efficient transport. an issue I had with gondolas is people wanted a picture taken whilst on them, they created traffic and caused chaos - imagine every tourist there trying to do that? mad right?!

I hope this is somewhat helpful.;)

3. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 364 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

... another?

We had a similar thread with the same request only last week, namely this: https://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=112265

4. Posted by Teoni (Respected Member 613 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Perhaps there is some innovation competition?

An app might be good for tourists but I don't see why locals would use it.

[ Edit: Edited on 19-Feb-2018, at 14:18 by Teoni ]

5. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1286 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

I think it's misguided to think tourists will use vaporetti in favour of gondolas if you reduce the price. A gondola ride is a premium tourist experience / tourist trap costing around €80 for a brief ride. Making the (already excellent) vaporetti cheaper wouldn't encourage their use, since they aren't ticking the gondola experience that many tourists are seeking.

An app. A quick look in Google Play for Android showed me 50 such venice tourist apps before I stopped counting. Why is yours different? How will people hear of it?

6. Posted by Pizza123 (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Teoni

Perhaps there is some innovation competition?

An app might be good for tourists but I don't see why locals would use it.

Hi Teoni, thank you for your quick response! I see what you mean, maybe the app would be better just for tourists. I was proposing using a part of the app for locals so they can avoid crowded areas if they wish to visit places themselves, but this may get complicated and not many locals might wish to use this. Thank you for your feedback :)

[ Edit: Edited on 19-Feb-2018, at 14:45 by Pizza123 ]

7. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 364 posts) 42w 2 Star this if you like it!

Quoting Teoni

Perhaps there is some innovation competition?
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Rather one seminar where everyone got the same task, and the hint to use an internet forum to let random strangers do their homework.

8. Posted by Pizza123 (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Andyf

I think it's misguided to think tourists will use vaporetti in favour of gondolas if you reduce the price. A gondola ride is a premium tourist experience / tourist trap costing around €80 for a brief ride. Making the (already excellent) vaporetti cheaper wouldn't encourage their use, since they aren't ticking the gondola experience that many tourists are seeking.

An app. A quick look in Google Play for Android showed me 50 such venice tourist apps before I stopped counting. Why is yours different? How will people hear of it?

Hi Andyf, thank you for your response. I have researched some of these apps on App Store myself and seen reviews when considering building this app. Looking at their reviews, the ones which are of competition to my idea seem to charge tourists although they advertise as free. My app would be free of charge and will provide all the information required by tourists while providing them with money off coupons and vouchers. I will definitely take into consideration your point about the gondolas and the Vaporettis. Thanks for your feedback. Any further comments will be much appreciated :)

9. Posted by Pizza123 (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Kathrin_E

... another?

We had a similar thread with the same request only last week, namely this: https://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=112265

Hi Kathrin E, there are many undergraduate students doing the same course therefore, have the same task. This forum is extremely popular as we are researching tourism in Venice. Hope this clears the confusion :)

10. Posted by Pizza123 (Budding Member 5 posts) 42w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Nisaaa

I like this idea. I like how it is a very 21st century concept; everyone has a smartphone so accessibility is already not an issue. Different languages make it easier to use and allows a large number of us tourists to be able to use this in a way that it easy to me.

I like the idea of how everything is in one place which makes it easier than opening up different apps for stuff e.g. google maps for a map, just eat or trip advisor for food etc. This makes it easy to use!

In the past I've had terrible experience with toilets, so consider having a toilet attendant to ensure these are maintained, as toilets can be left soiled and in other unused states, making it difficult for tourists like myself to go and use these, especially if not staying on the mainland hotels - due to their ridiculously high prices.

As for restaurants, what are they to gain from this? Prices for food will still be of a high price, so what would it mean for them? also, how would this benefit a tourist like me? maybe consider a tourist discount if we come at off peak times, as you mention?

I've seen when I went last year that vaparettos are good with directions - it is clear where there is a stop and what the name is of the stop. ideal if you are a new traveller

very thoughtful how you consider the invasion of locals by the high number of tourists that outweigh them. vaparettos would also carry more people, meaning more efficient transport. an issue I had with gondolas is people wanted a picture taken whilst on them, they created traffic and caused chaos - imagine every tourist there trying to do that? mad right?!

I hope this is somewhat helpful.;)

Hi Nisaaa, thank you for your positive response! This helps me a lot with my research. I will definitely take into account everything you have said :)