Best cities to move to?

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1. Posted by joewest439 (Budding Member 5 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

Hello everyone,

I wanted to get some valuable opinions on various cities throughout the world. I've been living in Dublin for the past 9 months, I loved it at first but have been growing increasingly bored of it for a while now. I'm looking to move to another city, preferably a large one, but am unsure which one to go for.

I'm 31, male, outgoing, friendly, independent, single, I work in hospitality but do not have any exceptional qualifications. I am willing to learn new languages for this venture. I also don't have a huge amount of funds saved up, I plan to couchsurf if necessary for the initial week or two before finding a more permanent place.

My city criteria consists of the following: Friendliness, job opportunities, cosmopolitanism, amount of English speakers, nightlife.

My shortlist so far is: New York, Berlin, Hamburg, Tokyo, Seoul. (I realise these places don't meet all of my preferred criteria...)

What are people's opinions on my choices so far?

Anywhere else worth considering?

Is it realistic to get a travel visa to the US or Asia and then find hospitality based work, then get a work visa?

2. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 367 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

> Is it realistic to get a travel visa to the US or Asia and then find hospitality based work, then get a work visa?

Can't speak for 'Asia' but imo def not the US.

Working on a visitor (i.e. 'tourist') visa is seriously not a good idea. Converting a visitor visa into a US work visa is neither straightforward nor speedy:

US work visas, whether temporary or permanent, are usually only issued when there is an offer of employment:

I suggest you initially focus on finding employment elsewhere in the EU, increasing your experience and (ideally) gaining some relevant qualifications. Amsterdam? Copenhagen? Rome? London?

3. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 760 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

I dont think coming in on a travel visa is a good plan
New York is great for your criteria but is very expensive to live there. It is almost the most expensive city to live in in the USA. I'd think about someplace with a good nightlife but less expensive to live, like New Orleans, Reno or Memphis

4. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1163 posts) 29w 1 Star this if you like it!


Forget the USA.

You're just too old for Australia on a working holiday visa, unfortunately, otherwise I'd have said that ticked your boxes well.

Seoul doesn't sound like it fits your criteria. Not many English speakers, not very cosmopolitan or party scene, relatively - very alien but going to be dull very quickly.

As has been said, the EU ought to be the easiest. What passport are you travelling on? Berlin and Hamburg sound good choices for nightlife. How about Prague or Budapest? Both are a lot cheaper than Dublin with nightlife but I don't know about job opportunities for non locals.

5. Posted by woinparis (Inactive 145 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

Amsterdam is csompolitan, has nightlife, has a high level of englishspeakers. Cheap, certainly not, job opportunities I don't know.
Spain then France then Italy are prpobably the countries where English is the less spoken, northern countries speak it more.
Former eastern coutnries are the less cosmopolitan and are also the cheapest.

6. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 663 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

I agree with advice suggesting that you focus on the EU. Berlin is great and would tick most if not all of your criteria. Amsterdam also sounds like a good suggestion. Or what about Brussels? Good beer and a cosmopolitan feel, plus great travel connections elsewhere in Europe for when you feel like a change of scene.

7. Posted by Andrew Mack (Respected Member 348 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

I'm told by my German friend that in the last 5-10 years Hamburg has become the most expensive city in Germany (although I suspect Munich runs it close)...

8. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 760 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

I was thinking Prague because the cost of living figures in the US compare how much more it costs in each city than it does in Prague. I think Barcelona might also be a good option because the people there would rather speak Catalan rather than Spanish and so they would default to English rather than speak Spanish.

I don't know if you have considered it or how easy it is to get a work permit there but the west coast of Canada (Victoria, Vancouver) have a less snowy and more clement climate.

9. Posted by zzlangerhans (Respected Member 56 posts) 29w Star this if you like it!

This is the easiest call ever. China. Shenzhen, Shanghai, or Beijing in that order. Teach English and immerse yourself in the most rich and complex culture on the planet. There's also a 90% chance you'll be very happily married within two years, if that interests you.

10. Posted by joewest439 (Budding Member 5 posts) 28w Star this if you like it!

Thanks to everyone for the replies so far. Australasia is lovely but it doesn't appeal to me in terms of living there. I've been to Amsterdam many times but it's not really me anymore. Brussels was pretty boring I have to say. I'm on a UK passport. Wherever I go I want it to be somewhere big. I might just initiate my idea of living in a different city for a year every year from now on :)