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1. Posted by meegwilson1 (Budding Member 18 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Hi,

I have just purchased a return flight which will give me 6 mths travel from August 2018 to January 2019. I will fly in and out of Edinburgh but was planning on spending most of my time in other parts of Europe. Can anyone tell me how the Schengen area keeps track if you are going over boarders on tours etc. For example; I plan to go to Norway and then fly into Russia, this is easy as I will have my passport stamped at the airport. However, if I am on a bus tour and it goes from Croatia and crosses the boarder into Schengen area of Slovenia, how do they monitor this? Do I need to go somewhere and have my passport stamped or just show tour records? I would really like to spend my full 90 days in the Schengen area on not waste time searching for passport check in as such. I will fill the other three months between Russia, Croatia, Montenegro, Turkey and Morocco.

Any help would be great.

2. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 448 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

> Can anyone tell me how the Schengen area keeps track if you are going over boarders on tours etc.

How do the authorities keep track? Very easily.

Whenever you cross the Schengen border (which surrounds all 26 Schengen countries), whether by land, sea or air, you pass through border control. .. the standard passport etc check. That includes crossing from Croatia into Slovenia (though, who knows, maybe Croatia will finally have acceded to the Schengen Zone before your visit?).

All your entry and exit dates are noted on the system which is shared across all 26 Schengen countries.

It is only within the Schengen Zone that there are no border formalities between countries.

> I would really like to spend my full 90 days in the Schengen area on not waste time searching for passport check in as such.

You won't have to search for passport 'check in'. Whenever you cross the Schengen border, whether by land, sea or air, you'll pass through a border control. :-)

[ Edit: Edited on 05-Mar-2018, at 12:45 by leics2 ]

3. Posted by meegwilson1 (Budding Member 18 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for your help. Really hope Croatia doesn't join this year..

4. Posted by harptravels (Budding Member 10 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

They only stamp passports at the airport. Not while you are travelling on land.

5. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1134 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Quoting harptravels

They only stamp passports at the airport. Not while you are travelling on land.

That's not entirely true - if anyone crosses from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country either at an airport, a sea port or overland, they'll have their non-Schengen passport stamped.

6. Posted by Kathrin_E (Travel Guru 365 posts) 40w 1 Star this if you like it!

If there is doubt, it will not be the authorities' task to prove that you overstayed. It will be your task to prove that you did not. So keep proof. Tickets, hotel bills, tour programmes...

7. Posted by Teoni (Respected Member 614 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Between Slovenia and Croatia, they do stamp at the land crossing. I drove between the two countries and was stamped at every crossing.

8. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 448 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Border control, including stamping, occurs at every land crossing from Schengen countries (which are not coterminous with the EU) into and out of non-Schengen countries. That's the whole point of the Schengen Zone: there is formality-free border crossing throughout the 26 Schengen countries but not when travelling into or out of any of those countries into a non-Schengen country.

The idea that passports are only stamped at airports probably derives from experience of crossing land borders within the Schengen Zone (which is not the same as the EU) where, as I said, there are no border formalities, though that does not mean that authorities do not have the right to check passports/formal ID. That sometimes happens, for example, on trains passing between Italy and Switzerland.

[ Edit: Edited on 06-Mar-2018, at 09:36 by leics2 ]

9. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 759 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

Border control, including stamping, occurs at every land crossing from Schengen countries (which are not coterminous with the EU) into and out of non-Schengen countries. That's the whole point of the Schengen Zone: there is formality-free border crossing throughout the 26 Schengen countries but not when travelling into or out of any of those countries into a non-Schengen country.

The idea that passports are only stamped at airports probably derives from experience of crossing land borders within the Schengen Zone (which is not the same as the EU) where, as I said, there are no border formalities, though that does not mean that authorities do not have the right to check passports/formal ID. That sometimes happens, for example, on trains passing between Italy and Switzerland.

It's never occurred to me to wonder at this till now, but why in that case are passports not stamped when we fly from the UK to a Schengen Zone country, or return here from one?

10. Posted by leics2 (Respected Member 448 posts) 40w Star this if you like it!

I assume because UK citizens are...for the moment... EU citizens. Although Schengen & the EU are not coterminous I think the agreement regarding free movement applies to all EU/EEA/Schengen citizens.

Along with UK driving licences not automatically being sufficient in themselves, that's yet another thing that will change when/if the UK leaves the EU. :-(

[ Edit: Edited on 06-Mar-2018, at 11:54 by leics2 ]