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41. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 1086 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

A vacation that does not mean travel - around here that is called a Stay-cation. It's not usually much of a vacation for the person in the family that does the cooking and cleaning.

We used to use that phrase to mean spending your holiday time at home, maybe taking days out to explore, but these days it seems to also include holidays taken in your home country without travelling abroad. Last summer, which was unusually hot here, the news reports talked about people taking a staycation rather than going to Spain or similar package resort destinations.

42. Posted by Teoni (Travel Guru 865 posts) 1y 2 Star this if you like it!

Quoting JetlagWarriors

This thread is getting a bit out of whack.

I prefer to travel in a certain way. Simply by having preferences that means I must feel the alternatives are beneath me? By choosing A it means I hate anyone who has ever done B? What? I think that is a seriously childish way to look at things.

I am kind of confused as to where this is coming from. This idea that because I identified a spectrum of options, with adventure at one side and relaxation at the other, I feel superior in some way?

My parents have been taking vacations for years. They quite enjoy it. Wait, because I prefer to stay in hostels, my parents and I are mortal enemies now? This whole debate is so tribal. My team vs your team, right? That wasn't what I intended when I started the thread.

There are different ways to do things. 'If you prefer travel you must hate vacation' is a lazy way to think -- just as lazy as 'travel and vacation are entirely the exact same thing in every single way'.

Anyway, happy travels to all.

To be honest reading your original post in isolation, I do get the impression you are disparaging (though it is gentle I might add) what you call "vacation travel". It may not have been your intention but you have to remember when you are writing something what it sounds like in your mind doesn't always translate on screen and so other people will read it differently. If you are writing a blog it might be useful to get someone else to read your article before posting to see if the ideas in your mind are being understood correctly by the readers;).

As for travel vs vacation I always thought the debate is a bit of a shallow first world dilemma. Tourists would be better off contemplating how their visits impact local communities rather than their social media "authenticity status". To locals you will always be a tourist no matter how authentic you think you are being and for the locals most times that is not a bad thing. They usually don't mind tourists because tourism is an industry that they can make money, have employment, perhaps better their lives, keep the next generation from moving away, even preserve traditions that would otherwise die out. But there are instances where it does go wrong and knowing where to spend your travel funds to best impact local communities is far more helpful than trying to "be like a local".

43. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 1086 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Teoni

knowing where to spend your travel funds to best impact local communities is far more helpful than trying to "be like a local".

Excellent point!

44. Posted by Peter (Admin 6866 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Vacation is just a subset of travelling.

In the same way that adventure travel, business travel, family travel, cruise travel, etc.. are all subsets of travel.

All of them are travel. Not all of travel is all of those things.

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46. Posted by oblak (Inactive 23 posts) 46w Star this if you like it!

They're different to me. Mostly I travel - long circuitous routing, with planned sites each day, pre-purchased tickets and an itinerary I've created that we follow. Sometimes I vacation - like when we go to Hawaii. We plan nothing other than the car rental and we get very little accomplished. I have limited patience for vacation and a lot of interest in travel.

In recent years, I've started doing a hybrid sort of a trip. We'll do one of my specific itineraries and then our last stop will be a vacation type place in a European city. Last time it was Positano, where we just hung around for 3 days. It was perfect after Paris, Barcelona, Venice. On my next trip, we're mixing it up a little more...Krakow, Budapest, Santorini(vacation) and then back to travel with Crete.

47. Posted by Meike Carter (Full Member 3 posts) 46w Star this if you like it!

Hey there! A couple of months ago I blogged about the same issue. It sparked my fire, after overhearing a person claiming to be a world traveler, after visiting a resort in the Caribbean for 3 days. It honestly bothered me, because I respect the hell out of real, open minded, adventure seeking travelers. Real travelers wouldn't label themselves anyways, because there is always someplace new to discover.

48. Posted by Beausoleil (Travel Guru 1318 posts) 45w 1 Star this if you like it!

Going back to the original post, the definition of "vacation" would gag me. That sounds like a definition of travel h*ll. Staying in a 4 or 5-star hotel doesn't appeal at all. I want to see what it's like where I visit and quite frankly virtually every 5-star hotel looks pretty much the same. Not interesting . . .

I remember a camping trip across the USA with our 3 kids (back in the day) and it got a little rough in a couple of the campgrounds. We returned home and our son discovered his best friend had gone to the one of the same places we had and stayed in a luxury hotel. He whined a bit about it and my comment was, "Yes, but he doesn't know the wind comes up at night in the desert and you do." He then discovered a lot of things his friend didn't see and we had no more complaints. We got to swim in a cattle tank; we shooed vultures off our picnic table. What could be more fun than that?

A vacation is a break in routine. When we were working, it was a welcome break to do some of the things we dreamed about. Now that we're retired, it's a dream come true. I can rent a country cottage in the wilds of France but I don't need to be on a constant adventure. Having lousy plumbing doesn't make it a better travel experience; it's just more inconvenient. On the other hand, having lousy plumbing doesn't have to ruin a vacation; just makes it more inconvenient. Inconvenience doesn't separate vacation from travel. Roughing it doesn't separate vacation from travel. Where you go doesn't separate vacation from travel. It's all in the mind . . .

49. Posted by ToonSarah (Travel Guru 1086 posts) 45w 2 Star this if you like it!

Quoting Beausoleil

Having lousy plumbing doesn't make it a better travel experience; it's just more inconvenient. On the other hand, having lousy plumbing doesn't have to ruin a vacation; just makes it more inconvenient. Inconvenience doesn't separate vacation from travel. Roughing it doesn't separate vacation from travel. Where you go doesn't separate vacation from travel. It's all in the mind . . .

Absolutely true - where and how you travel doesn't matter so much as the 'why'. Go with an open mind and a genuine curiosity about your destination, and even a week in a luxury resort will teach you something about the world and about yourself, I reckon :) But go determined not to see what is around you and to look for the 'just like at home' in everything, and you might just as well not have bothered!

50. Posted by Piecar (Inactive 1218 posts) 45w Star this if you like it!

It's impossible for this type of topic to come to resolution. Everybody gets their back up, and everybody wants to believe they are on a grand adventure, even if they spent their whole journey looking off the Lido deck or being slowly walked thru the Casbah with security fore and aft.

...and rightly so, I guess. You do what you are comfortable with. It's still travelling somewhere. I spent three hours in Cancun once and it hurt my sensibilities so much, I fled. But if a person had fun there, they can like what they like. I was just in Trakai castle. Happened to land exactly when a tour bus of blue hairs showed up. I like being by myself, taking turns when I feel like it and the blue hairs evidently like going in a tight group and cackling like chickens while being led....but we ended up in exactly the same place just then. I'd say the tourist/traveller line was pretty darned blurry there.

Everybody is the hero of their own story. And there's prejudice(which literally helped our species survive) ....and there's bigotry. If you travel, you're a traveller.