India and Indonesia: Difficult decision about the order

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1. Posted by Chloeflore (First Time Poster 1 posts) 10w 1 Star this if you like it!

Hello everyone,

First of all, I want to apologize for my weird sentences if any, as english is not my first langage ( I'm a french canadian :) )

I plan to travel from june to august in both india and indonesia ( about one and a half month each) and I have a hard time deciding which one should I do first and which one should be the next.

My main argument for starting with Indonesia are:
- According to my research, it will be a lot cheaper in june than in july-august
- If I got food poisonning or any kind of sickness in India, then I will be heading back home rather than not being able to enjoy the wonderful food in Indonesia
- I will probably get well rested to confront India after it...

My main argument for starting with India are:
- If I buy 10K piece of clothes in Indonesia, I won't have to carry them throughout India next (shopping seems to be a thing in Indonesia)
- Maybe the cultural shock of India followed by the luxurious life of Bali will be less of a shock than the opposite ? Or maybe I will feel even more guilty to enjoy luxe after India?

Do you have any thoughts on this dilemma?

Thank you all !!
ChloƩ

2. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 777 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

Do you mean only Bali or are you planning to travel around Indonesia?
In 6+ weeks you will not see all of India (unless you are happy to look out a bus/train window), so what parts do you plan to see?
Have you checked the weather in each place at that time of year....

3. Posted by cecilecutblues (Full Member 39 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

I agree with above. Where in India and Indonesia are you planning to visit? India is a huge country and you may need to allocate more time compared to Indonesia depending on what you want to do and where you want to visit.

I wouldn't care about which to visit first too much but I would care more about efficiency and cost of logistics. In order to get to the place where you want to visit, which city you should fly into and fly out? You should play with skyscanners etc to figure out what is the most efficient route you're taking.

4. Posted by Old Man At (Budding Member 49 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

For what it is worth, I found indonesia a welcome relieve after the noise, hustlers and filth in India. From that perspective alone, go to India first.

5. Posted by ToddP (Moderator 174 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Chloeflore

Hello everyone,
- If I got food poisonning or any kind of sickness in India, then I will be heading back home rather than not being able to enjoy the wonderful food in Indonesia

If you get sick (which is most like that you will) go to the local pharmacy. They gave us some local stuff- "horse tablets" and that cleared all within 24hr. Not pleasant first and you should keep as close as possible to the bathroom and a shower. You mostly just write off that day!

6. Posted by NamsteIndia (Budding Member 11 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

You should start from Indonesia and then probably visit India later. Reason is weather. Most parts of India would be hot during June, only south part of India starts having some rains in June.
Further what areas are you thinking to visit in India north or south? Would you like to combine it with some wildlife safari & beach or mountains?
You need to find out number of days you want to give to each country.
As far as shopping is concerned, you can do that either in Indonesia or India. Whatever you don't want to carry with you can be sent/shipped to your place.
For first timers a combination of various cities in India would be good.
Regards

7. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 2216 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

"- If I got food poisoning or any kind of sickness in India, then I will be heading back home rather than not being able to enjoy the wonderful food in Indonesia.."

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Sometimes it is not the food that makes you sick. Your dirty hands - fingers could be contaminated with all sorts of stuff you transfer to your mouth when you eat. So, make a habit of immediately cleaning off you hands before touching food you stuff in your mouth. Everything you touch just wandering around could have all sorts of nasty stuff on it! I prefer to use some sort of wet wipes. I think the liquid hand sanitizer just moves dirt around but it is still good to have with you.

I have never had the overwhelming desire to eat any smelly, horrible looking thing sold as food just because it is there! But that is me! In Indonesia I could eat Nasi Goreng almost every meal!

Do not rely on a single debit card. Have back up sources of spending money. Have some sort of doctor - hospital insurance to cover your medical emergencies.

Good luck.

8. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 1143 posts) 10w Star this if you like it!

NamasteIndia makes a good suggestion. You'll need to consider the hot and humid weather in many parts of India during the time you plan to visit, including the monsoon. It depends on where you want to go.

If you're spending 45 days in each country you'll need to consider the entry requirements for Canadians, particularly Indonesia where visa-free entry is limited to 30 days:

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/indonesia

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/india

Karazyal is on the mark when he says "Sometimes it is not the food that makes you sick. Your dirty hands - fingers could be contaminated with all sorts of stuff you transfer to your mouth when you eat. So, make a habit of immediately cleaning off you hands before touching food you stuff in your mouth. Everything you touch just wandering around could have all sorts of nasty stuff on it!"

Please also note that oily food also can contribute to TD.

India is one of my favorite destinations. North, south, east, west, I seem to return again and again. "Incredible India" is the country's tourism motto; and for me it's true. So many awesome sights, so many diverse cultures, so many friendly people, etc. Go beyond the Golden Triangle and you are likely to be even more amazed.

The same goes for Indonesia. Bali should not be your sole destination. The other islands offer much, too. I have a friend who travels there several times a year; and her photos of the islands she visits (many off the beaten path) are stunning.

9. Posted by Degolasse (Travel Guru 824 posts) 9w 1 Star this if you like it!

I feel you are overthinking your reasons for going to one first over the other.

If shopping is a priority, then you can always ship stuff home. Besides, India is also a great place for shopping and I imagine you'll go home with a full backpack no matter which country you leave from.

You may get sick - most travelers do at some point in India - but that's not a reason to pack up and go home. Unless you catch something rare (please get your shots to prevent this), you are going to spend a day or two in bed. Get some meds from the pharmacy, drink lots of fluids, stay close to a toilet, and you'll be back sightseeing in no time. Your trip won't be ruined, it'll just suck for a couple days.

For culture shock, being rested up etc.. it's six in one half a dozen in the other. You could argue that Indonesia is an easier intro into traveling, so save the challenges of India till the end. But I also find culture shock really exciting when I'm fresh of the plane from home and ready for adventure. You don't have to wear yourself out in India either. If you hop around from town to town every couple days for 6 weeks, you will be exhausted. Every 2-3 weeks, plan for a break where you stay put for a few days in a small town, beach, mountain village or wherever, so that you can recharge.

So with that, I think the biggest factors, as others have suggested, are the logistics of flights, and the weather. I'm not an expert in Indonesia, but India can be challenging that time of year. You might be able to beat the monsoon in early June, but then you'll be dealing with insane heat. In July and Aug, it's going to be monsoon just about everywhere. I spent Aug in Rajasthan a number of years ago and since it's the desert it actually wasn't bad at all that time of year. It's also a perfect time to visit Ladakh. In other areas of India, do your research on when to visit.

10. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 777 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Chloeflore

If I got food poisonning or any kind of sickness in India, then I will be heading back home rather than not being able to enjoy the wonderful food in Indonesia

The food In India is also generally very good, but as mentioned previously illness often is not from the food.
India does have a problem with hygiene and the usual reason for illness is that the things you touch are dirty, so take hand gel and use it regularly to prevent wiping your face/lips with unknowingly dirty hands.