Quoting AndyF
Quoting Sujit1961
Stop cash transactions. Well almost. Use cash only for local travel and food.
I disagree strongly. Every time you use a card or electronic payment you leak data and expose yourself to ID fraud or card fraud.
At least with cash you limit your risk to the amount of cash you have.
thats very insecure of you andy. It doesnot happen here in India unless you share your card details + pin
Quoting Sudhanshusol
Quoting AndyF
Quoting Sujit1961
Stop cash transactions. Well almost. Use cash only for local travel and food.
I disagree strongly. Every time you use a card or electronic payment you leak data and expose yourself to ID fraud or card fraud.
At least with cash you limit your risk to the amount of cash you have.
thats very insecure of you andy. It doesnot happen here in India unless you share your card details + pin
You are not aware of it happening - yet. But since they're electronic records stored in several databases, the problems could still appear in the future, basically during your entire lifetime. With everything and everyone constantly being hacked - how certain are you that your financial records won't ever be exposed? Anonymous cash transactions cannot have that problem.
Paying electronically is certainly convenient, but it has inherent problems, particularly where privacy is concerned. Distrust all big organizations pushing to make it even more convenient, or the "phase out" cash; chances are they're hoping to make a lot of money with your personal information.
[ Edit: Edited on 10-Apr-2019, at 11:13 by Sander ]
Quoting Sander
Quoting Sudhanshusol
Quoting AndyF
Quoting Sujit1961
Stop cash transactions. Well almost. Use cash only for local travel and food.
I disagree strongly. Every time you use a card or electronic payment you leak data and expose yourself to ID fraud or card fraud.
At least with cash you limit your risk to the amount of cash you have.
thats very insecure of you andy. It doesnot happen here in India unless you share your card details + pin
You are not aware of it happened - yet. But since they're electronic records stored in several databases, the problems could still appear in the future, basically during your entire lifetime. With everything and everyone constantly being hacked - how certain are you that your financial records won't ever be exposed? Anonymous cash transactions cannot have that problem.
Paying electronically is certainly convenient, but it has inherent problems, particularly where privacy is concerned. Distrust all big organizations pushing to make it even more convenient, or the "phase out" cash; chances are they're hoping to make a lot of money with your personal information.
well i have been using electronic payments for years now. cards for like many years and payment apps for like 4 years now. Well what I ma saying it that frauds related to these doesnot happen here much in india unless you speak out your card details along with PIN or password to the wrong person. I dont know the situation of these frauds in your country. Anyway thanks for your concern and for making us aware of these frauds.
thats very insecure of you andy.
I don't think it's insecure - I've been a victim of ID fraud so I think it's being realistic.
(Actually the retail companies who were defrauded using my details are technically the victims but it was a right pain for me too.)
I also don't for a moment believe that India is immune to electronic crime; if so it would be the only country in the world to not have any, and let's face it it's a pretty scammy place in other ways so I imagine the chancers are using this just like other methods.
If I can avoid shedding data I do. Paying cash is a no brainer.
Reading about this gave me a change to reminisce about my experiences in India. I found the country quite fascinating and loved the food but had some of my most frustrating travel experiences there. This was a long time ago, but it sounds like some things haven't changed. Since I do not have blog for those days, I will tell my story here.
The first time I did not even make it into the country. Back in 1980 I was backpacking with a friend. We took a bus from Pokhara, Nepal to the border. We were on our way to Varanasi. My friend passed right through immigration and had our packs on top of our next bus. But I was not so lucky. The guard told me that someone with a name "similar" to mine had done something bad in India. I knew he wanted a bribe but was not sure how to do it. I was also quite sick, both cold and stomach issues, and was nervous about just offering money. I decided to argue. That didn't work. He would not let me in. We spent the night (Christmas eve) in a dingy hotel in the little border town and flew back to Kathmandu the next day. Later I was advised that I should have offered to pay for communication to Delhi (telex in those days). Of course no communication would take place.
In 1987 I flew into India with my wife. We landed in what was then Bombay and took a bus from the airport to a hotel our friends had recommended. The driver refused to take us there. Luckily, we were close to it, so demanded that he let us off and walked the last few blocks. Our next stop was New Delhi where we arrived quite late. We asked for a hotel recommendation at the airport tourist office and were told that due to some event that there were hardly any rooms available and were sent to a disgusting dirty and loud place. I was amazed at how my wife could curl up in her sarong to avoid touching the sheets. We left first thing in the morning and found a great place in the middle of town. There were lots of hotels rooms available.
While riding in a taxi, if the police prevent your car (and no person else’s) and tell you to pay a street rate, they’re lying. The cab motive force is probably a terrific man and inform the cop no, which took place once, or he is probably a terrible guy and let you know he can’t move until you pay. You can either pay the “quality” or “fee” or “tax”, whatever they call it, or you could argue. In the give up if the driving force gained’t go, and also you’re going to come to be paying. It received’t go to the road, it’ll cross for his subsequent beer. On the alternative hand, tolls are actual and the passenger does should pay.
Quoting dishapatani
The following is a list of alleged scams and scandals in India since Independence. It consists of political,
I think you have missed the context that we are a travel forum. The subject is scams that an individual traveller may want to be wary of.
Very interesting