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1. Posted by DaisyWhite (Budding Member 14 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

Hola viajeros.
Como tantas otras veces pido sus consejos y tips.
Estoy planificando un viaje a Portugal desde fines de mayo a los primeros dias de junio y tengo las siguientes preguntas:
1) He leido en algunos foros que Lisboa se ha vuelto una ciudad muy peligrosa y que ya no sólo hay carteristas sino también asaltos y secuestros. ¿Es así?
2) Si llego a Oporto por tren a la estación Campanhá ¿Puedo allí tomar el Metro hasta Trindade? Las estaciones se comunican o hay que salir de una para ir a la otra?
3) Quiero ir de Viana de Castelo a Pontevedra pero encuentro que casi no hay transporte público que las conecte, salvo un sólo tren a la mañana y buses ninguno. Tendré dificultad para conseguir pasajes? No hay forma de ir aunque sea hasta Vigo?
4) Leí que tanto en Lisboa como en Oporto lo aconsejable es no salir con bolsos ni cámara de fotos. Es así?
Desde ya muchas gracias a todos.

2. Posted by ToddP (Moderator 195 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

Hi there,
I never felt in any danger while visiting Lisbon. It's a big and busy city, with tourists and locals filling the streets, bars and restaurants. I do have large'ish camera and had with me the whole time and this was not an issue. Not sure where you are reading the reviews, but my personal experience (or any of my friends also who been there recently) can confirm your fear not to go there.

Common sense as in any large city needed, but nothing out of norm...

3. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1522 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

I agree with Todd. I was there a year ago and felt as safe as in any city - friendly, no hassle.

4. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 693 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

I'm not sure why you're posting in Spanish, Daisy? I know you speak English well and Portuguese, not Spanish, is the language of Portugal.

However. I absolutely agree with the two posts above.

1. >Lisbon has become a very dangerous city and that there are no longer only pickpockets but also assaults and kidnappings

I (middle-aged & very small female travelling alone) have visited Lisbon several times and have never felt in any more 'danger' than in any other large European city (i.e barely any danger at all if you use normal city common sense). I've felt considerably more uncomfortable visiting several cities outside Europe.

I've also read exactly the same about Rome, Naples, London ......

4. I read that both in Lisbon and Oporto it is advisable not to go out with handbags or a camera.

Of course not!

It's sensible in any big city anywhere to a) keep valuables e.g. most cash, cards, expensive phone etc on your person and *not* in your bag (which you should wear with the strap across your body) b) not to wear flashy expensive jewellery when exploring c) to stay alert when using ATMs and d) not to put your bag/camera/phone down on the ground, on a cafe table, hanging from a chair etc.

5. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 693 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

> If I arrive in Porto by train to Campanhá station, can I take the Metro to Trindade there? The stations communicate or do you have to leave one to go to the other?

You can access a system map of Porto metro on the official site:

https://en.metrodoporto.pt/frontoffice/pages/396

You'll see that there are five Metro lines which run directly from Campanha to Trinidade. The Metro is clearly signed from within Campanha station and is adjacent to it.

> I want to go from Viana de Castelo to Pontevedra but I find that there is almost no public transport connecting them, except for one train in the morning and none buses

Public transport is set up to meet the needs of residents, not visitors.

Pontevedra is in Spain. Viana do Costelo is in Portugal. It is unusual for official European railway websites to give details for many, if any, cross-border journeys.

You are correct that there is only one daily train between the two. It's unlikely that you wouldn't be able to buy a ticket from Viana do Castelo station, either on the day or the day before, but if you wish you can buy tickets online in advance from https://www.thetrainline.com/

There are two trains each day from Viana do Castelo to Vigo. Details on the trainline site.

The relevant long-distance bus companies (Rede Espressos in Portugal, Alsa in Spain) do not run from Viana do Castelo to either Pontevedra or Vigo.

[ Edit: Edited on 09-Apr-2019, at 02:48 by leics2 ]

6. Posted by DaisyWhite (Budding Member 14 posts) 6w 1 Star this if you like it!

Hi, people¡
Thanks very much for your tips.
Leics2: how are you? as you see I'm posting in English now.
The reason for posting in Spanish is because Spanish is my mother tongue and I thought that the post would be answered mostly by people of Portugal or Spain.
I know that Portuguese is the language of Portugal but for those people that don't speak English is easier to understand Spanish rather than English. But you undestand it pretty well i see¡¡
Thanks again to everybody¡¡¡

7. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 693 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

Hello again, Daisy. I'm fine, thanks. :-)

I understand your reasoning but, to be honest, I think the vast majority of people who look at primarily-English-language forums (of any type) can understand and write English pretty well.

[ Edit: Edited on 09-Apr-2019, at 09:06 by leics2 ]

8. Posted by DaisyWhite (Budding Member 14 posts) 6w Star this if you like it!

Thanks Leics2. I'll take your advice about English language.

9. Posted by heyclooop4 (Inactive 3 posts) 5w Star this if you like it!

I really liked Lisbon. Very beautiful city

10. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 819 posts) 5w 1 Star this if you like it!

Firstly I have to mention that occasionally bad stuff happens.
It doesn't matter where you are or how much effort you put into security, things go wrong.
Many (many many) years ago a friend was in the USA (I think but it could have been Canada) on a bus when someone in a gun shop made a mistake. The gun they were looking at went off accidentally and the bullet left the shop, through the window, bus side and through my friends foot.
No one can foresee something like that happening.

However there does now seem to be awful lot of mainly young people that think the people of the world are all the same and as long as they believe good things will happen, then good things will happen. Then they find out too late (hopefully not fatally too late) the world is a big place and people have very different beliefs and values around the world.
I think a lot of reviews of places now have to cater to those predominantly youngsters to instil some common sense caution in them.

I haven't been to Lisbon for over 10 years but never felt even slightly unsafe, however I always take safety precautions (don't flaunt desirable things, don't get blind drunk or high and don't walk into unsafe environments) and I'm (pretty much) always be aware of my surroundings including the people there.
I've seen a very large number of people (Especially younger people) in Central London walking about with their head in their phone, sometimes with earphones in as well, oblivious to what's happening around them... And they wonder why moped thieves target them..
I've seen them walk into the road with many vehicle/pedestrian near misses or lucky escapes (although one got a real hard collision with a cyclist).
Really some people seem to believe the world revolves around them and are shocked when things go wrong.

[ Edit: Edited on 13-Apr-2019, at 06:35 by Andrew Mack ]