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11. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2295 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

>why you think a Swiss chalet-themed pub from the 1960's would not be of interest to a visitor - many visitors like that sort of thing.

With all the other sights & sites of London to see, including several pubs which really do date from the 1600s and 1700s, I'm not sure a 1960s Swiss-themed pub would be high on anyone's 'first visit' list?

I wasn't suggesting it wouldn't be of interest to some, simply expressing my bemusement that the only reasons for recommending London are a 1960's theme pub and what I assume is a Wetherspoons mistaken for an ancient pub.

To be honest, and given that the OP states that he lives in the UK, I am rather bemused by the question anyway ...... especially in the context of his other questions. :-)

12. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1584 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting road to roam

Quoting leics2

As for Swiss Cottage, I'm not sure why you think a visitor should go there? The Swiss Cottage pub, in the style of a Swiss chalet, only dates from the 1960s........

Still trying to figure out why you think a Swiss chalet-themed pub from the 1960's would not be of interest to a visitor - many visitors like that sort of thing.

The place seems like it's an established business so they must be doing something right. True, not as authentic as the Owl and Thistle or some such place, but still...

Sure, I'd maybe even check out Swiss Cottage myself.

Really? The Princess Louise in Holborn is just one of several pubs in London which has a great deal more history than Swiss Cottage - even the toilets there are grade II listed - check out that pub!

13. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 1037 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

The Lamb in Leadenhall Market and The Globe Tavern in Borough Market are historically notable and they're both in interesting locations, which is more than I'd personally say about Swiss Cottage.
Along with 'Simpsons Tavern' and 'The George and Vulture' but they're both more eateries than straight bars.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jun-2019, at 11:36 by Andrew Mack ]

14. Posted by road to roam (Travel Guru 1026 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

TBH I can say I'd very likely skip the Swiss Cottage - my point is there are plenty of institutions throughout the world (Rainforest Cafe, Planet Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe) where people indeed go when they visit a foreign country and Swiss Cottage may be on someones list - even if it's not on your list.

Perhaps some people just want some fun and don't need to be surrounded by history all the time - that's all.

Some folks just like a disnified experience and plenty of them (people AND places) exist.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jun-2019, at 12:17 by road to roam ]

15. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2295 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

>Some folks just like a disnified experience and plenty of them (people AND places) exist.

Of course.

But that isn't relevant to the point I was trying to make....nor, imo, is it particularly relevant to 'Ye Olde Swiss Cottage' pub which isn't really what I'd call 'Disneyfied'. It's just a bog-standard pub in a purpose-built 1960s building (like 'The Windmill' in a purpose-built windmill near me). :-)

16. Posted by road to roam (Travel Guru 1026 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting AntonelaG

I recommend London, you can go to Swiss Cottage

Quoting leics2

As for Swiss Cottage, I'm not sure why you think a visitor should go there? The Swiss Cottage pub, in the style of a Swiss chalet, only dates from the 1960s........

Now I'm confused - was AntonelaG (inactivated) suggesting Ye Olde Swiss Cottage Pub, or the Swiss Cottage district? I'm guessing the latter. Tough call though - AntonelaG mentioned a locality (Angel) of London and a pub, both specifically.

Is the Swiss Cottage district of London or the Swiss Cottage Pub an odd place to suggest to a visitor? Or both?

I realize the OP is not taking notes.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jun-2019, at 16:03 by road to roam ]

17. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2295 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

>Is the Swiss Cottage district of London or the Swiss Cottage Pub an odd place to suggest to a visitor? Or both?

Both, imo. I doubt either would appear on most visitor lists, be they first-timers or not. I've only been in the SC area (and into the pub) for other reasons: I certainly didn't make a special trip. SC is in Tube zone 2 and is just a standard area of London, with nothing specific or special to see/do other than Basil Spence's library and Hampstead Theatre. Frankly, I see no reason for a visitor to go there unless you're seeing a show or have e.g. a meeting .......or if you are desperate to drink in a 1960's Swiss-chalet-style pub (and I genuinely don't think many people are).

I remain bemused as to why it, or the non-existent Angel Inn, should be mentioned as reasons to visit London ('first' or ever). Given that the member concerned inactivated herself so quickly I do wonder if it was an attempted promo....

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jun-2019, at 16:11 by leics2 ]

18. Posted by Axel1983 (Budding Member 7 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Bit biased, cause I live in Paris, but lived in London previously for 10 years. So would say definitely London first if you are American. It's a bridge between America and Europe, whereas Paris epitomises European culture. It's also less cosmopolitan, London is not that much an English city anymore, whereas Paris is very French. That said, both are beautiful in their own way! Hope you enjoy the trip!

19. Posted by Beausoleil (Travel Guru 1722 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Axel1983

Bit biased, cause I live in Paris, but lived in London previously for 10 years. So would say definitely London first if you are American. It's a bridge between America and Europe, whereas Paris epitomises European culture. It's also less cosmopolitan, London is not that much an English city anymore, whereas Paris is very French. That said, both are beautiful in their own way! Hope you enjoy the trip!

The poster is not American. He's listed as from the UK which is why I suggested he spend the entire time in Paris. If time is limited, there is so much to do in Paris and it should be easy for him to get to London if he lives in England. You're right though; both are beautiful in their own way.

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