Dog sitting between seats on flight

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1. Posted by PrettyFunPlaces (Budding Member 75 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

While flying from Jackson, MS to Atlanta, I sat across the aisle from a toy poodle. Instead of a regular dog carrier, it was boarded in a fashion crossbody bag. It does have one strap at the bottom to buckle in the dog, but from the outside it looks like a regular women's tote. While the bag was under a seat, the dog had full mobility between the two seats (the plane has a 2-3 seat arrangement). Luckily the dog never tried to get off the seats or barked. None of the flight attendants said anything. What do you think?

2. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 2289 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

I suppose this is better than a "Service Animal" that is a pig.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/01/emotional-support-pig-ejected-from-airplane-after-defecating/

Or bigger dogs that bit passengers.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2018/02/22/emotional-support-dog-bites-child-southwest-flight-debate-animals-airlines/362759002/

Even toy poodles can have fleas. Some passengers may be allergic to dog hair.

I think this "emotional support" animal thing is mostly a gimmick. Not the same a guide dog for a blind person. Google up "weird animals used as emotional support!"

3. Posted by road to roam (Travel Guru 321 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting karazyal

Some passengers may be allergic to dog hair.

It's not the hair at all people with dog (or cat) allergies react to. Rather, it's the dander and, in some rare cases, lingering enzymes from the animals saliva and urine.

[ Edit: Edited on 10-Aug-2019, 20:18 GMT by road to roam ]

4. Posted by PrettyFunPlaces (Budding Member 75 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting road to roam

Quoting karazyal

Some passengers may be allergic to dog hair.

It's not the hair at all people with dog (or cat) allergies react to. Rather, it's the dander and, in some rare cases, lingering enzymes from the animals saliva and urine.

Actually it is a protein in the animal's saliva that gets on the fur during grooming.

Remember poodles don't shed because they have curly fur, so the only issue would be the dog's safety due to not using a seatbelt.

5. Posted by Beausoleil (Travel Guru 1180 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

If the dog behaved, it would be an improvement over some people on planes. I've had all sorts of things spilled on me and suffered non-stop talkers not to mention those who brought their own food that actually smelled worse than the airline food. Rancid french fries are disgusting . . .

We also had a dog on board that barked from Los Angeles to Atlanta. That wasn't much fun for anyone. Given the circumstances above, I wouldn't complain. However, I'm not allergic to any animals and that would make a difference. It would seem reasonable it you had an allergy to ask to be moved as far from the animal as possible.

6. Posted by road to roam (Travel Guru 321 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting PrettyFunPlaces

Quoting road to roam

It's not the hair at all people with dog (or cat) allergies react to. Rather, it's the dander and, in some rare cases, lingering enzymes from the animals' saliva and urine.

Actually it is a protein in the animal's saliva that gets on the fur during grooming.

As I said earlier, lingering enzymes in the saliva are the problem. The vast majority of proteins are enzymes. In the case of dog saliva, that protein you mention is indeed an enzyme.

Poodles (and Labradoodles as well as other breeds) indeed shed less than other breeds, but again the fur they shed is not the allergen. These dogs are considered hypoallergenic not because of their fur (or how little they shedd compared to other breeds), but because the concentration of those enzymes in their saliva (and urine) have been bred out, most likely by chance rather than choice.

Quoting PrettyFunPlaces

Remember poodles don't shed because they have curly fur...

All mammals shed their hair or fur - some more than others. Shedding is simply a mammalian trait.

[ Edit: Edited on 10-Aug-2019, 22:43 GMT by road to roam ]

7. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 2289 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Fleas on dogs!

I would hate to be a dog on a plane. At least at home when they need to go outside and unload they kind of let you know. My old dogs would look at me and look at the door. Even at night when sleeping the dogs would poke someone with his nose if they couldn't wait to morning. Try that on a long flight!

A gerbil in a small cage would be okay. (Lined with some paper towels or a newspaper!)

  • * Dander, hair, saliva, snot - who cares - someone who is allergic and NOT expecting to have a "service animal" as a seat mate might have problems or end up dead. I once got bit on the hand by a flea on a long distant flight. Someone had some kind of varmint on board or on a previous flight.

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Aug-2019, 00:22 GMT by karazyal ]

8. Posted by road to roam (Travel Guru 321 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting karazyal

  • * Dander, hair, saliva, snot - who cares - someone who is allergic and NOT expecting to have a "service animal" as a seat mate might have problems or end up dead.

End up dead? Highly unlikely.

I have very severe food allergies (sesame seeds, sesame oil and cashew nuts), but I won't suffer a reaction unless I consume these. Also, I've been told by 2 allergists I'm allergic to cats AND dogs.

Based upon my extreme food allergies I need to carry life-saving medications in case I masticate and then ingest (and it's happened, believe it or not!) these foods, however I can safely say being around a dog or cat has yet to kill me - that just won't happen. BTW, I'm cuddled up 2 dogs right now (with 3 cats, somewhere over yonder!) for several hours, even as I type this, and have yet to sneeze, cough or rub my eyes once.

As for the foods I mentioned - within seconds of eating a sesame-seed or cashew dish (typically Asian and Indian food, respectively), I notice very significant swelling in my tongue and throat. Being around dogs and cats - no such problems!

I don't wish to discuss how you feel regarding service animals, but I'll say it's nearly impossible for a dog or a cat (and their hair or fur) to cause a fatal allergic reaction with a human.

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Aug-2019, 01:35 GMT by road to roam ]

9. Posted by PrettyFunPlaces (Budding Member 75 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

I know for a fact to be a service animal, a dog or cat would have to wear a vest with a photo ID card slot on one side and its job title printed on both sides. Once I flew with a Portugese waterdog (the same breed the Obamas have) wearing this and a harness. At one point during the flight the dog was startled by the sound of a food/drink cart being rolled into the main cabin. No problem - the owner reined it in with the leash.

10. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1343 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting road to roam

... but I'll say it's nearly impossible for a dog or a cat (and their hair or fur) to cause a fatal allergic reaction with a human.

Extreme but have a look at this from the Daily Mirror.