Crazy Airport Parking Rates

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51. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1923 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Airports in the US are frequently under construction in the passenger areas (I almost can't remember an airport where there wasn't some kind of construction going on) and sometimes the result is that there is improved drop off possibilities (like cell phone lots). So I think it would be possible for someone to figure out a way for airports to make it more secure if they really wanted to - especially at the smaller airports.

52. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2518 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

What are 'cell phone lots', Grandma?

>So I think it would be possible for someone to figure out a way for airports to make it more secure if they really wanted to -

They have done. They've provided free drop-off/pick-up areas further away from the terminals (but still on-airport), provided free transport to and from those areas and have introduced time-staggered charges to reduce vehicle numbers and congestion at the (very small) at-terminal drop-off/pick-up areas (usually called 'sort-term parking').

The complaints are purely about being charged for the barrier-controlled drop-off parking which now exists in the majority of UK airport at-terminal parking areas (remembering that terminal kerbside drop-offs are no longer possible in the majority of UK airports because of security concerns). Some people think they should be able to use those areas for free. The rest of us either pay the small amount required or use the free shuttle buses from/to the free areas a bit further away. :-)

[ Edit: Edited on 22-Aug-2019, 13:26 GMT by leics2 ]

53. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1923 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

That's all very well if you are mobile and can handle your own luggage.

54. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2285 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

those who complain are just demonstrating the 'entitled' attitude which so many people nowadays seem to have.

I'm quite happy to agree to disagree, but I think the above statement is inflammatory - I know you're a plain talker but from anyone other than a regular that would be deleted in the interests of averting a flame war. Can you call us names more subtly please? :)

55. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2518 posts) 1y 1 Star this if you like it!

My apologies, Andy. That rather badly-worded generalised comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone else on this thread. Please feel free to snip it.

That's all very well if you are mobile and can handle your own luggage.

All UK airports have provision for those with mobility difficulties. And there's nothing to stop others paying the required small amount (mostly £3....about 3.5 USD..for 0-10 or 15 minutes) to use the at-terminal drop-offs

What are 'cell phone lots'?

56. Posted by Teoni (Travel Guru 1585 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, Andy. :-)

There's no way you're going to convince me that it's in any way 'unfair' to charge people for at-terminal drop-off parking when there are perfectly feasible free alternatives. Imo, those who complain are just demonstrating the 'entitled' attitude which so many people nowadays seem to have.

Imo, if you want the convenience of being dropped at the terminal, you should be prepared to pay for it. If not, just do what the rest of us do, use the free drop-off/pick up areas then walk or take the shuttle bus to the terminals. :-)

To me it is more the absurdity of the charge. It just sounds ridiculous the idea that a two minute stop should cost money. If schools started charging for the same thing we would think it was weird. If the idea is to get traffic moving I quite like what Tromso Airport does where they too have barriers and tickets but as long as you are under the 5 minute time limit you don't get charged. This motivates the drivers and passengers to move along quite quickly without having to penalise people for wanting a less convoluted way to get to the airport.

You also keep mentioning that this works as a security measure. It would be helpful if you could expand on this a little more because in my mind I just keep thinking would a terrorist really reconsider their target because they have to pay for a parking ticket?

57. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2518 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

>You also keep mentioning that this works as a security measure.

The security element is that at-terminal charges reduce the number of vehicles coming close to the terminal + pedestrian areas and also reduce traffic congestion within that area (taxis, buses, coaches, cars using other on-airport parking). Apart from the Glasgow airport terrorist ramming, the UK has experienced many car bombs etc over the decades and security issues do have a high profile. UK airports are the only place in the country where there are armed police on patrol as a norm.

>ridiculous the idea that a two minute stop should cost money.

If it was always just a 2 minute stop I'd agree but, from a great deal of personal observation at airports here and elsewhere, the vast majority of people (other than those in taxis) take at least 5 minutes to get out, get organised and say their goodbyes.

58. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1923 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

That's all very well if you are mobile and can handle your own luggage.

All UK airports have provision for those with mobility difficulties. And there's nothing to stop others paying the required small amount (mostly £3....about 3.5 USD..for 0-10 or 15 minutes) to use the at-terminal drop-offs

What are 'cell phone lots'?

People (uber, family) coming to pick people up, go into the cell phone lot to wait, and the arriving passenger calls them on their cell and tells them where on the curb they will be for pick-up.

Most of the big airports (Like LAX) have two or three lanes by both pickup and drop off. Our local airport (BWI which is midsized) one lane for buses to drop off next to the terminal and all the cars have to go into the next lane out and can't drop off right at the curb, Passengers dropped off by family have to cross the bus lane to get to the terminal. Sometimes there are wheelchairs there to take me across.

The arriving passenger area for pick-up the lane closest to the terminal is for the buses that take you to the car rental or the airport parking lots, or the shuttle buses to outlying areas (in the case of LAX to San Pedro). And maybe for taxis. The next lane out is for shuttle buses to hotels or people picking up relatives or friends. To have a friend pick you up, you have to cross the bus lane to the outer lane.

In both places there are traffic police who will write you a ticket if you are in the wrong place. You can't park and wait and the driver can't leave the car and walk into the airport.

[ Edit: Edited on 22-Aug-2019, 15:12 GMT by greatgrandmaR ]

59. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2518 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Thank you.

The 'cell phone lot' is similar to the free areas provided by airports for pick-up, served by shuttle buses. Off-airport taxi companies use them too. The difference is that either the passengers have to use the buses (or walk) to get there or the driver, once phoned, can pay a small amount to use the at-airport pick-up/drop-off area.

Airport layouts vary hugely, of course. The US airport I've used the most over the past few years (Hartford) has one lane for kerbside drop-off and pick-up (at different levels), used by cars and hotel/parking shuttles. One of my nearest UK airports has a blocked lane then a 'general traffic' lane to cross before the charged drop-off area: the other has three bus orcar lanes to cross before the charged drop-off area.

60. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1923 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

When I come into a European airport (the ones I've used recently were Heathrow, Schiphol and Charles deGaulle), I have booked a ride (with some kind of a ride service) and the driver is usually standing at the exit (or in the case of Schiphol at the red cube meeting area) with a sign with my name on it. We follow the driver to where he or she has parked and load into the vehicle and the driver pays parking as we exit.

I don't think I have ever been dropped off at Heathrow - usually I'm either arriving or changing planes there. The last time I was dropped off at an airport in England was when Enterprise dropped us at Newquay (a small airport by my standards :))and we had to walk into the airport from where she dropped us. (It was about a block and I went ahead of Bob on the scooter and he went in a different entrance than I did, and it took some time for us to find each other) I don't know if she could have dropped us closer by paying a fee - I think not.