Quarantined in a cruise ship

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21. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1447 posts) 1w 1 Star this if you like it!

They have done a lot of things that are suspect. They continued going to their remote location of Haiti even after the earthquake when Haiti needed aid. They are incorporated in Liberia. RCCI is not my favorite cruise line.

But you will have a great deal of difficulty complaining about ineffective and discriminatory practices which are ostensibly aimed at keeping people healthy. It is a great deal easier to say No to something than to say sometimes yes and then sometimes no.

22. Posted by Teoni (Travel Guru 864 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Peter

Should they be allowed to discriminate like that though? I find it quite disgusting that they are getting away with it actually.

I suspect it is about ease. Checking passports takes time and effort not to mention if you have Chinese passport you probably won't have anything to indicate if you have visited HK or Chinese mainlaind. To get that information you would have to go through probably Chinese immigration I would think.

23. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1855 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Peter

Should they be allowed to discriminate like that though? I find it quite disgusting that they are getting away with it actually.

Bear in mind that many cruises will need the cooperation of the port authorities at all their ports of call. It's usual for cruise ships to require you to show them you have visas for each port of call before initial boarding, rather than letting you stay aboard if there's a port where you aren't permitted, so they are clearly trying to streamline the process for each port. I'd expect the ship to be jumpy about restrictions the ports may put in place re Chinese visitors between the cruise commencing and arrival in each port.

In times of pandemic I would support a harsher approach to restricting travel. I want the authorities in each country to prioritise saving lives over entitling people to travel. That should absolutely include a focus on travellers from a high risk area, however they can be easily identified, and if there are false positives like Aussie residents with Chinese passports then so be it. In an emergency there isn't time to come up with a perfect system with no false positives. The presumption should be more towards no travel unless you can prove you're not a risk.

24. Posted by Peter (Admin 6866 posts) 6d Star this if you like it!

I don't know.. it's pretty easy to see in a Chinese passport when someone last entered Australia (assuming an Australian departure here as an example). Surely they have decent passport control at the start of any international embarkation? Also, if they really wanted to be careful, then the answer is simple... no departures at all.

25. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1447 posts) 6d Star this if you like it!

When my mother and daughter went to China in 1976, where Taiwan was still "China" and mainland China was "Red China", they had two passports so that Taiwan would not know that they had been to "Red China". I think this is still possible, so what one passport shows wouldn't necessarily be all the exits and entries.

26. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1855 posts) 6d Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

When my mother and daughter went to China in 1976, where Taiwan was still "China" and mainland China was "Red China", they had two passports so that Taiwan would not know that they had been to "Red China". I think this is still possible, so what one passport shows wouldn't necessarily be all the exits and entries.

Is it not the other way around - ie mainland China make it difficult. I don't think Taiwan mind where you've been.

27. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1447 posts) 6d Star this if you like it!

Quoting AndyF

Quoting greatgrandmaR

When my mother and daughter went to China in 1979, where Taiwan was still "China" and mainland China was "Red China", they had two passports so that Taiwan would not know that they had been to "Red China". I think this is still possible, so what one passport shows wouldn't necessarily be all the exits and entries.

Is it not the other way around - ie mainland China make it difficult. I don't think Taiwan mind where you've been.


During the 1950s and 1960s, after the government had withdrawn to Taiwan upon losing the Chinese Civil War, it was commonly referred to as "Nationalist China" (or "Free China") to differentiate it from "Communist China" (or "Red China"). It was right after Nixon opened China to travel by US citizens. He went to China in 1972. Chiang Kai-shek died in 1975. Mao died in 1976. On January 1, 1979, the United States changed its diplomatic recognition of China from Taipei to Beijing. When the US recognized China, they broke off relations with Taiwan. China was pretty happy about that. Taiwan wasn't or at least travelers were advised not to tell Taiwan that you had also been to China

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