Staycation anyone?

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1. Posted by Cottonwood (Full Member 147 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

So, staycation anyone? I hear the rest of the world is a closed and a mess anyway.

2. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1188 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

For the majority of us who can afford to travel abroad (the minority anyway) there is no real alternative to a 'staycation'...and there certainly is no alternative for anyone who has a sense of communty responsibility.

The impact of this pandemic will result in many airlines massively reducing their services or going bust entirely and huge numbers of hotels etc will go to the wall. After the crisis is over prices will rise massively people may well find their ability to travel is very substantially reduced.

It's not really a situation to make light of, imo.

3. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1906 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Today it feels like the UK government started taking it a lot more seriously. I was prepared for them prompting the over 70s to reduce their social contact by about 75% from yesterday's announcements, today's change to apply that to everyone and no more talk of 75% has thrown me a bit.

Part of the guidance is to avoid all nonessential travel.

Next week we have a break in Scotland booked. The plan is to stay a night each way at my place in Cumbria. Then we've four nights booked at the Travelodge in Fort William.

I'm trying to decide whether to go. We've an electric car so no need to visit petrol stations - just unmanned chargers which I can hook up wearing gloves. No dining room at the Travelodge, so the plan is takeaways or self cater from Morrison's. And our planned activities are walking, nicely away from other people, and maybe a bit of touring in the car.

We're thinking our contacts would be about the same as staying at home and going to work. But would we be being irresponsible to go?

4. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1188 posts) 1w 1 Star this if you like it!

I think it was the (very sensible imo) Scottish Health minister who was speaking yesterday about a reduction of 75% for the over-70s. But, frankly, the government advice is so changeable and so vague in so many ways that it seems to me it's just creating confusion, panic and fear rather than reassuring people that the necessary steps (e.g. insisting that all supermarkets immediately institute rationing of items), with appropriate legal back-up where required, are being taken.

>But would we be being irresponsible to go?

Imo you'll only be potentially putting others at risk at the Travelodge/Morrisons and I agree that's no different to staying at home, going to work & to the local shops.

I think the main concern is if one of you becomes ill whilst at the Travelodge. It'd be both costly and ineffably tedious to self-isolate there for a fortnight. Leaving the hotel immediately, driving straight home and going into self-isolation at home would obviously be the better option....but would it be the morally correct choice?

[ Edit: Edited on 16-Mar-2020, 22:08 GMT by leics2 ]

5. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1906 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

We're actually feeling very relieved that this is all we have booked, and it's not much to lose financially if we don't go. Any other year we'd have about three or four trips booked now.

6. Posted by Cottonwood (Full Member 147 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

My next trip won't be to till next November anyway, maybe..........It's a trip that is still in the planning stages, virus or no virus. Till then, home and work at the local grocery store a mile away is all I'm doing. Our local ski resort has shut down completely for the rest of the season because of the virus. Ironically, it shuts down the same weekend we get our first some what nice snow fall in over 6 weeks. Go figure.

7. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1491 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

I don't have anything booked except a trip to see my grandson graduate from college and I think that may well be canceled. I'm thinking of other trips, but I don't think I can really plan anything until next winter. (Dec-Jan 2021)

8. Posted by Beausoleil (Travel Guru 1345 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

We've got a trip planned back East for our granddaughter's graduation but strongly suspect it will be cancelled or postponed. We have until about mid-May to decide what to do and everything can be cancelled except the flight.

Then we have a trip to France mid-September and are really hoping we can do that. It's definitely wait and see.

Very quiet around here . . .

9. Posted by Vic_IV (Respected Member 85 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Here in Ukraine I have to work from home now.
Starting from tomorrow, all the public transportation within the country is going to be suspended.
We all have to put up with it...
Our next trip is planned for September.
Let's hope for the best! ;) Keep safe, everyone!

10. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 1906 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

In the UK the story has broken re the scientific advice behind our government's recent change of approach. Essentially doing nothing would likely result in around 500,000 deaths in this country. The Mitigation approach they were following is modelled to result in around 250,000 deaths, which was the new news. So instead they are moving to a strategy of Suppression.

I can see their reluctance to do this. Apart from the obvious economic cost, there is no clear end to it. The only ends to this are herd immunity from enough people getting it and recovering, or a vaccine which they say is a year or 18 months away.

I suspect that the unspoken real policy is that by attempting Suppression we'll achieve somewhere between Suppression and Mitigation, and some people will continue to get the virus and recover, whilst protecting the most vulnerable. And this builds herd immunity and limits the opportunities for the virus to spread later.

I can understand why people are screaming on social media blaming the government for endangering their jobs. It is very easy for people to be partially informed and only see 50 or so deaths and to view the severity of the situation in those terms. Hopefully the 250,000 deaths figure on the news will sober them up a bit.

I wonder how our society will look after this is finished. I'm expecting we'll see a changed landscape of brands and businesses, in leisure and travel and elsewhere, because the economic shock will be widespread. But also maybe in attitudes to travel, because it is our culture of easy travel which has made this pandemic spread faster than any in history. At least that's how it appears to me. Will we step back from mass travel after this? Wil there be fewer airlines and flights available? Will people holiday in their own country? Or will it bounce back and be quickly forgotten? I suspect some of the more authoritarian regimes will see it as a reason to be even more cautious with allowing tourists easy access, and that their spending comes with a risk.