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1. Posted by Ghamgeen (Budding Member 9 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

Hello just want to know I n a forein British citizen and have committed a theft from employer recently and I an on the run abroad and I just feel so much down that I have done sth really bad for the first time in my life.i have do ma questions to ask .
How to get back over this?
How to get back to uk without stopping at the airport?
Will I lose my British citizenship?

Thanks

2. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1269 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

>How to get back over this?

You have a choice: either go back to the UK and face the charges or stay on the run. Imo you made a very bad choice when you decided to go on the run. Unless you have unlimited funds, staying on the run will just make everything worse, especially at a time when so many countries are closing their borders.

>How to get back to uk without stopping at the airport?

You don't tell us where you are. There are very few flights to the UK from anywhere now and even fewer ferry routes. You may not be able to get back to the UK at all for several weeks/months. You can't enter the UK from anywhere without your details being known. If the UK police have put a 'warrant for arrest' marker on your passport they will know you are travelling into the UK and will arrest you at the airport gate, ferry port or Eurostar station.

>Will I lose my British citizenship?

What type of 'citizenship' do you mean? If you have a full British/UK passport you can't be stripped of it because you committed a crime. If you have e.g. 'indefinite leave to remain' status you can lose it if you spend more than 2 years outside the UK and it can also be removed for other reasons.

3. Posted by Ghamgeen (Budding Member 9 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

Thanks very much for your answers .
I do have full British passport which is about to expire next year.i did make a visit to Germany stayed there for few days and gone back home so no worries at all in airports.i want to ask few more questions if u dont mind.

Can a British passport be renewed if there is an arrest warrant?
How long i will be sentenced for the value over £100000
If u have any idea?
Is it possible to just go to Germany and stay on the run and get a German passport instead ?

Thanks very much

4. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1269 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

>Can a British passport be renewed if there is an arrest warrant?

Yes.

>How long i will be sentenced for the value over £100000

No-one can possibly tell you. Sentences relate to the exact charge and the individual details of each case. The maximum prison sentence for one charge of theft from an employer is 7 years.

>Is it possible to just go to Germany and stay on the run and get a German passport instead ?

Of course not. Apart from the fact that you may well be stopped at the UK airport or port of departure, UK citizens are not automatically entitled to German (or any other) citizenship.

It is also very likely that all EU police forces and authorities will be aware of your arrest warrant. Such information is shared across the EU. The UK is not yet fully out of the EU and it is very likely that the transition period will have to be extended.

As it seems you are in the UK, your best option is to simply present yourself to the nearest police station.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Mar-2020, 11:59 GMT by leics2 ]

5. Posted by Ghamgeen (Budding Member 9 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

Thanks once again and surly I m not in the uk at the moment but I really want to come back and face whatever. I have few kids they are all under 6 years cant really leave them alone they are British citizens by birth so I thought if I just take the family to any European country and just stay .as I said if there was any European arrest warrant I would have been caught on my recent visit .one thing more I want to share the reason of that theft is that I m very addicted to gambling I have been gambling for the last 20 years in uk and really forced me to this.

Will gambling addiction help my case?
How long I will serve suppose I get 7 years sentence?
Can I renew my passport abroad?

Thanks very much

6. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 2450 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

Where are you now?

You could do the honorable thing and turn yourself into the local police. Explain your crime to them and they can notify the proper authorities in England. The authorities will find a way to get you back for your trial. Your lawyer (barrister?) will use all available angles to mitigate your penalty.

Your choice!

7. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1269 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

>I have been gambling for the last 20 years in uk and really forced me to this

Nothing and nobody 'forced' you to do this. You chose to do it. There is plenty of free help available in the UK for people addicted to gambling. You chose not to take that help.

You need to accept responsibility for what you have done and for the effect your behaviour has had...and will continue to have....on your family.

>Will gambling addiction help my case?

Possibly. But if you aren't still gambling now you can't claim to be addicted. Addicts can't just stop without help.

>How long I will serve suppose I get 7 years sentence?

There's no way of knowing. It is not certain that you will even get a prison sentence. Many, though not all, UK prisoners are released after serving two-thirds of their sentence. Some are released earlier.

>Can I renew my passport abroad?

It is possible to renew UK passports abroad but only in very specific circumstances. Whether & how you can do it depends on the country concerned but when you renew your passport the arrest warrant may well show up.

>so I thought if I just take the family to any European country and just stay

1. The fact that there didn't seem to be an active European arrest warrant when you left does not mean there isn't one in place now.

2. You and your family can't 'just stay' in any European country, not even the EU countries. As soon as the UK transition period is over you won't be able to 'just stay' in Germany (where I suspect you are) or any other EU country without the appropriate residence visa. Whenever you apply for any sort of visa or permit your criminal activity will come to light.

Imo, if you really cared about your children you wouldn't have taken them to a European country away from their schools, friends and (I'd guess) family and into an entirely new culture....and you certainly wouldn't be considering 'just staying' there, potentially illegally. What about their education? What about the language issues they'll face? What about their health care...especially now? How are you going to get the money to feed & house them, especially in this very difficult time?

You chose to run away but now, imo, you've put yourself and your children in a much worse situation. I'd advise you to either go back to the UK and hand yourself in (your children will be fine and properly cared-for) or, if that isn't possible, go to the local police station, explain everything and see what happens.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Mar-2020, 14:03 GMT by leics2 ]

8. Posted by Ghamgeen (Budding Member 9 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

Thanks a million and surly I will take ur advise but the only thing that worry me is my children abroad in Afghanistan dont know how they will cope without me for few years if I get sentenced. Surly life will be tough.

Thanks once again

9. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1269 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

You originally said about your children:

>cant really leave them alone they are British citizens by birth so I thought if I just take the family to any European country<

Now you say your children are in Afghanistan. That seems very strange if they are British citizens by birth. Did you leave the children and, I assume, their mother in Afghanistan so you could go to the UK? You certainly have no chance of being with them until the coronavirus crisis is past.

Your children (and whoever is looking after them) are already 'coping without you'. Going on the run hasn't.....and won't.....help them at all

10. Posted by Ghamgeen (Budding Member 9 posts) 8w Star this if you like it!

My children are British citizens living with their mother in Afghanistan. They have never been out of Afghanistan. I was supporting them financially but suppose if I go to prison for years who is going to support them financially? Will it be possible for my children to visit me in UK?