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81. Posted by Teoni (Travel Guru 1015 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

We thought that our children should be able to type, read music, change a tire (and the oil and gap the spark plugs), swim, drive a nail, sew and cook. Some of those things have been OTBE.

These days coding is considered a necessary skill Highchools have started making it a compulsory course.

Quoting greatgrandmaR

I just saw an article in the WSJ (Wall Street Journal) which said that people are traveling in their own countries but that the locals of whatever area they are going to are not always completely thrilled to have out-of-towners descend on them.

That has happened in Australia. A lot of grey nomads found themselves with nowhere to stay because they were run out of towns and backpackers have been threatened:(. To be fair in Australia, small towns have little to no medical facilities so it is understandable why the locals would be more afraid of tourists bringing in a deadly disease than losing the tourism dollar.

82. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1424 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

>A lot of grey nomads found themselves with nowhere to stay because they were run out of towns and backpackers have been threatened

Nothing like that happened in the UK even when we were in 'full' lockdown and the police were stopping people who were suspected of travelling for leisure (e.g. with tents etc in their cars) and sending them, and the few who had wild-camped, home. 'Running people out of town' and/or threatening them is against the law. It wouldn't have been tolerated in 'full lockdown and certainly wouldn't be tolerated now we are allowed to travel for leisure and stay in hotels, caravan sites, camping sites etc etc.

83. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1714 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

There are some people who do not have homes - in that they don't have houses but they live and travel on boats or in RV's. So they could not be "sent home". And of course there are people that are actually homeless and don't have any kind of structure to live in.

The sailors have been kept in the marinas that they happened to be in when this started and they don't dare leave for fear that they would not be allowed entry to another place. I don't know what the boaters do that anchor out or live on a mooring.

84. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 1424 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

>in that they don't have houses but they live and travel on boats or in RV's. So they could not be "sent home"

In the UK the travelling community have sites, both temporary and permanent, to which...if they had broken the guidelines at the time (which they did not)...... they would have been returned.

In the UK the permanent canal narrowboat and boat community simply stayed in their existing moorings for the duration of lockdown.

>And of course there are people that are actually homeless....

In the UK, local authorities put their local homeless populations into hotel rooms as soon as the lockdown was announced. They were supported not only with food but with advice, counselling and...in the case of those who were addicted...appropriate levels of alcohol or medication. We're all hoping this will be a major positive, with most previously homeless people now in a much better physical and mental state and more able to move on with their lives.

These groups did not move their 'residences' during the lengthy period we were not allowed to travel except for work, essential shopping and medical treatment so the question of them being 'sent home' simply didn't arise.

[ Edit: Edited on 22-Jul-2020, 06:55 GMT by leics2 ]

85. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 1714 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

We have people from Canada and other places traveling in the US on their boats. They often anchor rather than going to marinas as it is cheaper. There is no authority to make visitors or even citizens stay at anchor or go into a marina.

It sounds as though the homeless in the UK are better off than they are here.

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