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11. Posted by Psamathe (Budding Member 147 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

Quoting Peter

Quoting Psamathe

If you are 19 and in the UK I expect you are being rather optimistic about getting both doses of vaccine by April - I'm in my 60's in the UK and I pushed the time (marginally early) and I wont have had both doses by April.

Just as a guess, it might be due to being a nursing student?

Might be but "gap year" is normally between school and University so as a school leaver she would not likely be eligible for such early vaccination. But also UK is not currently issuing poof of vaccination (the card you get is stated not to confirm anything officially).

Ian

12. Posted by Peter (Admin 7008 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

Yeah, I don't know. Just guessing. And totally agreed with others that travelling in that way are really a pipe dream right now unfortunately.

I'd like to suggest coming to Australia, doing the quarantine and then living the reasonably COVID free life. But we're struggling to even get Australians back into the country, so despite really needing the tourism and backpackers on farms, etc. it's just not a particularly likely option. I think we won't really be opening up until most of the country is vaccinated.

13. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2320 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

> as a school leaver she would not likely be eligible for such early vaccination

The vaccination groups aren't set exclusively by age. Over-16s with underlying health conditions (gp 6) were eligible for vaccinations when the over-65s became eligible (in England, not sure about Scotland, Wales or NI). Social care workers were eligible even earlier (gp 2). Additionally, some areas are ahead of others and some vaccination centres have long been offering 'walk-in' jabs at the end of the day (so no vaccine is thrown away) so it is possible that the OP will get both jabs by the end of April.

I'm pretty sure some sort of vaccine certificate will be available within a few months. The EU is proposing a QR code vaccination certificate for which UK citizens will be able to apply.

None of the above changes the comments I made in my first post.

[ Edit: Edited on 25 Mar 2021, 08:26 GMT by leics2 ]

14. Posted by Psamathe (Budding Member 147 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

> as a school leaver she would not likely be eligible for such early vaccination

The vaccination groups aren't set exclusively by age. Over-16s with underlying health conditions (gp 6) were eligible for vaccinations when the over-65s became eligible (in England, not sure about Scotland, Wales or NI). Social care workers were eligible even earlier (gp 2). Additionally, some areas are ahead of others and some vaccination centres have long been offering 'walk-in' jabs at the end of the day (so no vaccine is thrown away) so it is possible that the OP will get both jabs by the end of April.

I'm pretty sure some sort of vaccine certificate will be available within a few months. The EU is proposing a QR code vaccination certificate for which UK citizens will be able to apply.

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I don't disagree but it's an interesting "side topic" as I've found quite a few youngsters round where I live seem very optimistic they'll be vaccinated "by tomorrow" and back in pubs the day after. i.e. they don't seem to have an appreciation for the schedule.

I agree about vaccination certificates but I do wonder about when. UK seems wavering all over the place, some politicians in favour, others (plus advisers against) plus many are thinking only about use domestically (to get into football matches, etc.). And then there is the implementation time for whatever system they implement (and it can't be totally reliant on owning a mobile phone) and it adds complexity because whatever system is implemented needs to get (limited) access to your health records which is always a very emotive thing (just try registering for "Patient Access" so you can get at your own GP health records - I've read the procedure but not done it). I will be interested to see what "proof of vaccination" the EU will accept as the cards you are given when you get the injection are easily to copy and are stated as "not proof of vaccination", letter booking appointment proves nothing (maybe you were a "no show", etc.).

I agree it will happen but UK seems to be being slow and I worry will likely be late getting anything sorted (and I do hope I'm very wrong).

One aspect that I have found strange on this is that the WHO are anti-vaccination certificates for travel and they are the body who should really be instigating a worldwide recognised system. With maybe domestic UK cards, EU QR codes, etc. we could end-up with a real mess, some system easily available fraudulently, some countries recognising some schemes but not others whilst neighbouring countries recognise and reject different schemes ... As you say I suspect it will happen but when and WHO is unlikely to change it's attitude until most fo the world has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.

The other big worry is how variants will at least partially invalidate some vaccinations or some forms of some vaccinations. e.g. get vaccinated with AZ today, then in April Brazil-2 variant appears and by autumn AZ mk 2 vaccine that covers Brazil-2 is being used except your AZ vaccine doesn't. My vaccination card only says "AstraZenica" and a batch number - so no immigration officer would have any idea what variant my vaccination might cover.

I'm sure it will all get sorted but it might take some time and be a slow process. So a 2 week Gite in France might be possible but longer term travel to a region might be a bit longer coming. Hence my suggestion to OP that if it were me I'd be looking at doing my University course now and going travelling once that was finished i.e. between education and employment - which is actually a far more natural time to head off travelling as you have an open-ended time slot and if opportunities present themselves on your travels (e.g. volunteer work for a year) you can do it as you don't have to get back to your already booked course; you just keep going until money runs out of you've seen enough and time to go home and find work.

Ian

15. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2250 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Psamathe

I don't disagree but it's an interesting "side topic" as I've found quite a few youngsters round where I live seem very optimistic they'll be vaccinated "by tomorrow" and back in pubs the day after. i.e. they don't seem to have an appreciation for the schedule.

Agreed but that's no reason to doubt the OP's statement. One of my staff has a 19 year old who's been jabbed already, so I think Leics is entirely right.

One aspect that I have found strange on this is that the WHO are anti-vaccination certificates for travel and they are the body who should really be instigating a worldwide recognised system

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The other big worry is how variants will at least partially invalidate some vaccinations or some forms of some vaccinations. e.g. get vaccinated with AZ today, then in April Brazil-2 variant appears and by autumn AZ mk 2 vaccine that covers Brazil-2 is being used except your AZ vaccine doesn't. My vaccination card only says "AstraZenica" and a batch number - so no immigration officer would have any idea what variant my vaccination might cover.

I think you have answered your own question there. The variable nature of vaccines, individual's immunities, longevity of antibodies and t-cell response, and strains of infection all mean that it's a can of worms. Hence governments and the WHO are not being quick to rush to a position, since it will definitely be a wrong stance in some way.

16. Posted by jaydenthelwell (Budding Member 4 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

Hi! Thank you so much for you responses! The reason i have been vaccinated so early is because i’m a carer so had my first dose in January, going to be studying as a nurse in September so good guess Peter:).
All points made are 100% valid and i agree its very optimistic of me to think i’ll be able to go, just thought i’d ask on here anyway. I hope within the next couple years i will be able to go for a full year as i had hoped, i’d love to hear about your own experiences whilst travelling too for some inspiration!

Hope you have a good day

17. Posted by Peter (Admin 7008 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

Definitely keep it in your plans. It's a great thing to look forward to and you'll no doubt have a blast when the time comes. My own "gap year" travel after high school led to me permanently migrating to Australia, so to say it was an important thing in my life would probably be a bit of an understatement ;)

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