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1. Posted by Trebor Illusion (Budding Member 72 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

When my own restrictions are lifted and I'm allowed to go further than local, I'm feeling to travel, see places/go places.

Now, if my country was to lift restrictions, that doesn't mean other countries will, so I'm thinking about all the places I may be allowed to go to within my own borders if the borders are closed, that I'd like to see, may as well see them now while other places are closed, when I'm allowed to travel. - That's me, I'm in England, I'm in London but I think we replaced Tiers for a national Lockdown and Scotland are doing their own version of Lockdown stopping travel from England... So I'm in England; Lockdown isn't going to last forever, but where to go?

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I travelled last year during a pandemic, the last year my British self could go to the EU under freedom of movement, this was when things were relaxing here and getting tense in Amsterdam, NL (where I went in the EU).
I left London after the 1st Lockdown and landed in Amsterdam the same week the Dutch started to get strict with face masks.
Dutch landing forms for Covid, I saw 1 police check for masks and walked through it with a mask with my landing papers on my person if they needed to see them.
But I was following the news out there just before I went, and noticed that the week before they announced their face mask rule - So what happens in the UK; in England, isn't what happens else where; so to play it safe, I'm thinking, when lockdown ends, England seems like a safe bet.

Where in England?
I'm in London, so not London, since to me, that's not travel travel, that's just going out.

I'm looking at/thinking about Whitby on the Yorkshire coast...
Get my Bram Stoker's Dracula on and hope to get some fresh air from a more tranquil pace of life seeing Whitby.

For me, it's proving harder to get to Whitby than say Paris or Amsterdam or New York City even, because it's a little off the beaten track, on the other side of England to me - but with this year being that borders may be closed to me, I'm considering Whitby, England for a few days.

What about you?

[ Edit: Edited on 2 Apr 2021, 09:22 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

2. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2310 posts) 1w 1 Star this if you like it!

Goodness!

Of course what happens re Covid in the UK isn't the same as what's happening in other countries. Every country has its own Covid laws, regulations and rules...just as every country has always had its own laws, regulations and rules about many other things.

Whitby is a very visitor-friendly town with lots and lots to explore. It is a bit of a pain to get to by train from London (and elsewhere) but it's certainly not a difficult journey. If it's easier/cheaper you could investigate getting the train to York and then the regular Coastliner bus over the moors to Whitby. Bus timetable linked here:

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coastliner/services/YCD/840

Whitby harbour area and old town are fascinating, there is a long, sandy beach and a rockier beach where you can find fossils and jet. 'The Magpie Cafe' is famed for its fish & chips and Trenchers Restaurant was voted best fish & chips in England 2019. There are plenty of places to stay, eat and drink (when allowed, obv).

There are regular X93 buses to Scarborough (typical English seaside town with castle ruins and sandy beaches) via Robin Hood's Bay (another fascinating place with a long history of smuggling. Timetable linked on this page: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/find-a-service/x93-from-weaponness-wheatcroft-avenue-to-middlesbrough-bus-station-stand-11

The bus trip to and from York across the moors is excellent. York itself is stuffed with things to see and do, historical sights & sites, city walls, excellent shopping, boat trips on the river, bars, pubs, nightclubs and restaurants (when open, obv).

If you decide to go to Whitby I'd advise you to book your accomm (and/or York) as soon as you can. Both places are hugely popular with visitors and accommodation soon gets booked up in the summer months.

[ Edit: Edited on 2 Apr 2021, 09:59 GMT by leics2 ]

3. Posted by Trebor Illusion (Budding Member 72 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

Goodness!

Of course what happens re Covid in the UK isn't the same as what's happening in other countries. Every country has its own Covid laws, regulations and rules...just as every country has always had its own laws, regulations and rules about many other things.

Whitby is a very visitor-friendly town with lots and lots to explore. It is a bit of a pain to get to by train from London (and elsewhere) but it's certainly not a difficult journey. If it's easier/cheaper you could investigate getting the train to York and then the regular Coastliner bus over the moors to Whitby. Bus timetable linked here:

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coastliner/services/YCD/840

Whitby harbour area and old town are fascinating, there is a long, sandy beach and a rockier beach where you can find fossils and jet. 'The Magpie Cafe' is famed for its fish & chips and Trenchers Restaurant was voted best fish & chips in England 2019. There are plenty of places to stay, eat and drink (when allowed, obv).

There are regular X93 buses to Scarborough (typical English seaside town with castle ruins and sandy beaches) via Robin Hood's Bay (another fascinating place with a long history of smuggling. Timetable linked on this page: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/find-a-service/x93-from-weaponness-wheatcroft-avenue-to-middlesbrough-bus-station-stand-11

The bus trip to and from York across the moors is excellent. York itself is stuffed with things to see and do, historical sights & sites, city walls, excellent shopping, boat trips on the river, bars, pubs, nightclubs and restaurants (when open, obv).

If you decide to go to Whitby I'd advise you to book your accomm (and/or York) as soon as you can. Both places are hugely popular with visitors and accommodation soon gets booked up in the summer months.

Way ahead of ya there - I've already found a way that may work for a 6 hour journey time leaving at 11 am arriving at 5 pm/check in time.

That's a train from my local to London Victoria (preferred route for me as I don't wish to go via East Croydon or London Bridge, so, my train to Victoria, 39 minutes).. Victoria Line to King's Cross (every 2 minutes, takes 15 minutes) and take the 12:45 train (but say it's 12:30 for good measure) to York, like, 2 hours and 15 minutes it says making sure to catch that one as it seems 'Express' written all over it, and other's don't, so, this train... Arrive at 14:50.. From the same station find a train calling itself the TransPennine Express, at the hour, on the hour to Scarborough, takes 51 minutes, arrive in Scarborough at 15:51 for the 16:00 1 hour bus X93Max or an X94 (if I somehow miss that X93Max bus) - the X93Max leaves at the hour, the X94 doesn't, and hasn't got the word Max on it (Everything past King's Cross would be a first for me).. Going to York alone will be my 'Most North I've been record' beating this day trip to Leeds once... but both X93Max and X94 take 1 hour to get to Whitby, but assuming.. I make it to catch the 16:00 X93Max, this puts me in Whitby by 17:00 and check in time for this hotel in Whitby, travelling on a Saturday.

I've already used this trip making tool on this community to map it out, and hit a snag when trying to map out my Atl. Route, you see.

I could go the above for £150.00 (Give or take a tenner or a fiver here or there/£10 or £5), for 6 hours...

In planning this trip, I decided, Newcastle Airport could be useful to me, it wasn't, 4 hours from Whitby to Newcastle; cost more, same amount of hours in travel, only, getting to the airport and arriving before the flight allowing 90 minutes for a domestic flight... It dawned on me that there could be other airports, that I've not heard of; so I searched for Whitby's closest airport, one called Teeside Internatonal Airport (MME) came up; never heard of it in my life, but there it was; then I see Heathrow has 2 flights a day with Logan Air, that's 1 hour long but planes tend to be faster depending on luck, so, I guesstimate they say an hour but could do in 40 minutes from LHR - MME.
..
Then it's 1 hour from MME to Whitby.
Only reason why it's not really my main option of 6 hours is, it's almost at much as the flight and the train to take a minicab from MME to Whitby and vice versa, Uber too, same prices, so £70 each way; and then I'd have to leave at before 5 in the morning maybe to be at Heathrow and to allow for 90 minutes, IDK. However, I tried adding this route to that mapping tool and, got as far a LHR before it never heard of Teeside International Airport (MME).

[ Edit: Edited on 2 Apr 2021, 11:45 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

4. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2248 posts) 1w 2 Star this if you like it!

There are a number of reasons why short hops by air in the UK are a poor idea.

As you've identified, you have all the overhead of travelling via airports. So that means premium price transport to the airport, allowing time for processing through security etc and some safety margin, then at the other end considerable faff getting to your destination.

Then there's the climate impact argument. Short flights are vastly more polluting per mile than ground transport.

Ground transport also lets you enjoy the scenery along the way, be less confined than in a plane, and reroute if things go wrong - as opposed to abandoning the trip that day if a flight is cancelled.

5. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2248 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Mod note to Trebor:

New users posting links triggers our automated anti-spam system.
When you've hit "reply" to Leics2 and left her links in there, this has triggered it twice now.
To avoid your posts being held up until a Moderator comes along to okay them, better to trim out at least the links from the quoted text. :)

6. Posted by DAOonVT (Full Member 1448 posts) 1w 2 Star this if you like it!

I was originally going to travel and meet a friend in Mongolia in June. No visa for USA passport holders :), but they have closed their borders :(.

Now possibly São Tomé and Príncipe (on-line visa for most passports ).

For now - just working to try and hoping to recover from the financial consequences of Covid.