UK - query about entry for Infant on NZ passport

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1. Posted by susanrandom (Budding Member 3 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Hi there, just hoping for a little help with an odd question.

My husband and I are soon to be travelling, fairly urgently, from New Zealand to the UK because my father in law is very ill. We have a one year old who has an NZ passport. He is entitled to a UK passport, but he doesn't have one yet. We were planning to travel on one way tickets to save money, but also because we're planning to stay in the UK for at least 6 months and up to a year. We would apply for my son's passport once over there, because the current turnaround time for a passport application is 13 weeks.

Both my husband and I have UK passports (I'm a dual citizen born in NZ), so it's no issue for the two of us to come to the UK and stay as long as we need to. However, it's occurred to me that my son's entry may be something of an issue. I've spoken to our travel agent about it and he recommended buying my son a refundable ticket back to NZ.

Does anyone know if this is actually necessary? I see on the gov.uk website that an onward ticket isn't required, but you may be asked to prove you can support yourself financially and/or have the funds to buy your ticket home at the end of your six months. We can do this no issues. However, I've read some stuff online that suggests it might be the airline that refuses to let us board without proof of onward travel.

Can anyone offer any perspectives on this?

Thanks so much.

2. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2548 posts) 3w 1 Star this if you like it!

>We would apply for my son's passport once over there, because the current turnaround time for a passport application is 13 weeks.

First of all, the pandemic has caused a substantial backlog and passport (and other legal document) processing times can be longer than usual in the UK as well as NZ. At the moment official advice is to allow up to 10 weeks for a first passport. If/As you are normally resident in NZ (i.e. you've lived & worked there for a long time and intend to return after your UK stay) you may find that causes additional delay.

You can apply here online or by post but do first make sure you know someone in the UK who is not a relative and who is eligible and willing to confirm your identity (for your child's passport). There are restrictions on who can verify identity:

https://www.gov.uk/confirm-identity-online-for-passport-application

> an onward ticket isn't required, but you may be asked to prove you can support yourself financially

The support aspect obviously applies to the adult/s accompanying the child. Decisions are always made by the border officer/s on the day. No-one here or anywhere else can say for certain whether all will be well. Imo, it's unlikely that your son would be denied entry because he does not have a return ticket but it might be worth investigating the cost of a date-flexible return ticket if only to put your mind at rest.

What is perhaps more relevant is carrying plenty of proof that your son is your son, especially as he has a different citizenship. Make sure you take plenty of relevant birth documentation/proof of residence etc with you.

>the airline that refuses to let us board without proof of onward travel.

Any airline can refuse boarding if they aren't happy with your paperwork, not least because they can receive substantial fines for carrying people who cannot legally enter the country of arrival. Again, make sure you have all relevant birth documentation etc to hand.

The pandemic has made entering the UK much more complicated for all citizens (including UK citizens). There are set procedures that you must follow e.g. completing a passenger locator form, proof of a recent negative Covid test (of a type acceptable to UK border control) and having two further tests booked (and paid for) in the UK before travelling.

I don't know your proposed route but if you travel via (not just from) a 'red list' country you must, before travelling, book a 10-day hotel quarantine stay (quarantine elsewhere is not allowed on arrival from red list countries). You don't get to choose the quarantine hotel, quarantine hotel stays aren't free and I'm afraid they're not cheap either. Countries can be added to and removed from the red list with very little notice so do keep an eye on what's happening. The UAE is on the red list at the moment so try to avoid travelling via Dubai or Abu Dhabi.

I'm sorry to say that, because of the Covid-related entry requirements, Heathrow border control has very substantial delays (including for UK citizens): up to 6/7 hours has been reported. Other UK airports are also experiencing delays at border control.

This link gives details about all the Covid-related UK entry requirements:

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control

I'm sorry you're facing additional expense and hassle at such a worrying time. I do hope all goes well.

[ Edit: Edited on 20 Apr 2021, 07:57 GMT by leics2 ]

3. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 3102 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

"We were planning to travel on one way tickets to save money, but also because we're planning to stay in the UK for at least 6 months and up to a year."

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Have you priced round trip tickets? Maybe things are different where you begin from but when I travel overseas to Asia, for instance, Round Trip for me is cheaper than 2 One Way flights.

Can you prove the child is yours and not a baby you kidnapped?

  • Since it is your husband's family, can he travel alone just to get there while his father can still recognize him?

Good luck.

4. Posted by susanrandom (Budding Member 3 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting leics2

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I'm sorry you're facing additional expense and hassle at such a worrying time. I do hope all goes well.

Thank you, leics2, for your kindness above and all the helpful info. We have considered most of what you raise, luckily, it's just the small details. Of course, if we had time on our side we would simply get his passport and wait to come after that, but things don't look great for my husband's dad, and we really want him to be able to meet our son before the inevitable.

I think we are comfortable that he will be allowed to enter the UK as a visitor, and I don't think we'd be in the wrong by applying for his UK passport while he is there as a visitor. All going well we will be staying for at least 6 months, so plenty of time to allow for processing. We may just end up booking return tickets that are date-flexible to remove the worry, then we have got flights home should things not work out for staying long term for whatever reason.

Thanks again!

[ Edit: Edited on 21 Apr 2021, 01:22 GMT by susanrandom ]

5. Posted by susanrandom (Budding Member 3 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting karazyal

"We were planning to travel on one way tickets to save money, but also because we're planning to stay in the UK for at least 6 months and up to a year."

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Have you priced round trip tickets? Maybe things are different where you begin from but when I travel overseas to Asia, for instance, Round Trip for me is cheaper than 2 One Way flights.

Can you prove the child is yours and not a baby you kidnapped?

  • Since it is your husband's family, can he travel alone just to get there while his father can still recognize him?

Good luck.

Yes, the return flights are cheaper than 2 one way flights. It's just cheaper in the short term, and since this is a short notice trip, every little bit of saving we can make right now counts. But then again, we will do what we have to, to get there in time.

Luckily we are well stocked with documentation to prove my son isn't a kidnapped baby...

Yes, technically he can travel alone first, but I'd definitely need the good luck if I did end up doing 30 hours flying on my own with a toddler

Thanks.

6. Posted by leics2 (Travel Guru 2548 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

>I'd definitely need the good luck if I did end up doing 30 hours flying on my own with a toddler

You would indeed. You'd need quite enough luck with the journey and both of you in normal times, let alone now!

For a bit more reassurance you could phone or email the UK consulate in NZ, explain the situation and your concerns and ask for their thoughts. Contact info on this page:

https://www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-consulate-general-auckland