UK Anyone? (Where shall we recommend in the UK)?

Leics, I see your trips don't include England but you seem very knowledgeable on Whitby, North Yorkshire and unless I'm mistaken, you mentioned somewhere you're from Leicester way...
I wonder, where in England have you been if you've travelled in England anywhere for holiday/to see somewhere for a day, and if you can think of anywhere in England (since Covid and I'm in England not looking to leave England for my travels since the home nations of the UK and everywhere else in the world are doing their own Covid restrictions including shutting borders).
Am I missing a trick?
Is there anything England has to offer that I may not be thinking of or know?

Where, in your travels, if you've been anywhere in England, would you recommend is great and should see?

For the summer months maybe.

[ Edit: Edited on 25 Apr 2021, 23:18 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

Quoting leics2

> I thought Coastliner was the name of the bus company that ran those busses

Coastliner is just the name of the bus. It's operated by Transdev.

There is no 'best'. There is only one bus that runs Leeds > York > Whitby: the 840/843 Coastliner. It's operated by Transdev. The number difference relates to the route

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coastliner/services/YCD/840

The Coastliner Express is the same bus but, on some runs, it cuts out some of the usual stops so the journey is faster. It only operates in the summer months so it's not relevant to your trip.

Are you sure I won't have to get off and change bus?
I don't want to miss my bus and the time table that day says I need an 840 @ 14:23 to get to the 843 @ 15:15 to put me in Whitby @ 16:40
https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coastliner/services/YCD/840?date=2021-10-31&direction=outbound
Do I stay on the bus and the number on the front changes?
Or do I run the real risk seeing the 843 passing the 840 on the way out as the 840 I'd be on at the time is pulling in?

The only other bus going to Whitby that day gets there at 11:23 and is far too early for me, and I googled Sunset time that day for Whitby; 16:28 it says...
Nothing more Dracula about that; sunsets, I roll in etc... Sounds cool, fluke, but cool.

I hope 5 pm isn't when everything is closing down and there is something to do at night there on a Sunday, all be it, one of the town's party nights.

[ Edit: Edited on 26 Apr 2021, 03:15 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

Quoting Trebor Illusion

Leics, I see your trips don't include England but you seem very knowledgeable on Whitby

Many people have a different mindset to yours, and domestic travel is not an intricately planned special event but a normal function of having a spare day.

We'll have been to thousands of places in the UK, and in many cases it probably wouldn't occur to us to list it in our profile as a "trip". Like fish in water it is just the medium we inhabit.

We have a rich history and a proper answer to your question would fill an encyclopedia. As a starter for ten can I suggest York, Durham, Bristol, Oxford, Lincoln, Keswick, Stratford, the Derwent Valley Mills, Penzance, Ludlow.

>Leics, I see your trips don't include England but you seem very knowledgeable on Whitby, North Yorkshire and unless I'm mistaken, you mentioned somewhere you're from Leicester way...

The only UK trips I've mapped on TP involve a flight. I don't see the point of mapping the literally thousands of UK holidays and daytrips I've taken. I've lived here all my life, I've had at least one UK holiday every year and have made daytrips pretty much every weekend. I've had a car for decades. So yes, like Andy I've visited thousands of UK places and yes, I am 'knowledgeable' about the UK.

>where in England have you been if you've travelled in England anywhere for holiday/to see somewhere for a day

I've had over 100 UK-based holidays in my life and like Andy, I've made thousands of of daytrips to UK places.

>Is there anything England has to offer that I may not be thinking of or know?

To be honest, I don't think you know much about England away from its most major cities and suspect you know even less about Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

> Where, in your travels, if you've been anywhere in England, would you recommend is great and should see?

I think you aren't interested in landscapes and walking? So, as well as the places Andy has listed (know you've been to Liverpool but not sure if you've been to Manchester?) I'd suggest Newcastle-on-Tyne, Sheffield, Leeds, Salisbury, Winchester, Cambridge, Norwich, Warwick, Lancaster, Exeter, Berwick-on-Tweed and more. If you do want countryside, try Kendal (accessible by train) or Penrith (ditto) for buses round the Lake District. 'Traditional' seaside options include Weymouth, Newquay, Great Yarmouth, Torquay, Eastbourne, Bournemouth, Blackpool (not my sort of place), the Isle of Wight, Ilfracombe.....

Then there's the rest of the country. Cardiff, Caernarvon, Aberystwyth and Llandudno.... Edinburgh, Glasgow, Stirling, Dundee, Inverness .... Belfast....

And hundreds more.........

[ Edit: Edited on 26 Apr 2021, 08:05 GMT by leics2 ]

Buses:

Are you sure I won't have to get off and change bus?

I'm not 100% sure because things can happen: buses can break down, drivers can go sick..... Just ask the driver on the day. Remember that, outside London, it's absolutely normal to talk to bus drivers and for them to talk with passengers. All you have to do is ask politely.

> Do I stay on the bus and the number on the front changes?

That's what usually happens but ask the driver on the day.

>do I run the real risk seeing the 843 passing the 840 on the way out as the 840 I'd be on at the time is pulling in

Not if you ask the driver on the day.

If you don't want to ask the driver on the day just get off the 840 and wait at the bus stop for the 843.

>I hope 5 pm isn't when everything is closing down and there is something to do at night there on a Sunday, all be it, one of the town's party nights.

As I said before, Sunday hours (excluding pubs & restaurants) are usually 10 - 4, occasionally 11-5. If you choose to arrive on a Sunday you just have to accept that it is as it is.

Thursday, Friday and Saturday are generally 'party nights' in England. By Sunday people are usually partied (and spent) out and just want to chill. There won't be much to do in Whitby on a Sunday night apart from the pubs and restaurants. I suggest you check in October to see if any pubs have live music on Sundays (local regulations sometimes ban it), open mic etc.

Please understand that the rest of the UK isn't anything like London/Greater London and doesn't actually want to be anything like it (though we'd appreciate a share of all the extra funding London gets).

[ Edit: Edited on 26 Apr 2021, 07:30 GMT by leics2 ]

Quoting leics2

try Kendal (accessible by train) or Penrith (ditto) for buses round the Lake District

That was my aim in suggesting Keswick. Penrith (my adopted home town) doesn't have much in the way of accommodation and visitor infrastructure, though it's a lovely market town to visit. But take the train to Penrith and then a bus to Keswick and you're in the best place to see the Lake District without then being dependent on public transport.

Keswick is the hub for the northern Lake District, suffers far fewer coach tours than the south Lakes, has masses of accommodation, eateries and shops catering to visitors; the lakefront has one of the best vantage points of Lakeland for those that don't want to walk, and has six or seven options for great walks from your doorstep in different directions. Add a trip on a lake launch or a minibus into the Borrowdale valley and you expand the options greatly. Highly recommended.

Here's a pic I took last weekend from across the lake.

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I take your point, Andy though I'm not sure how interested Trebor is in landscape, nature & walking.

There is nothing stopping the UK from having 2 world cities you know; if USA can, so can UK, but as it is, London's a world city, Birmingham's an English city.

OK, the American gets to jump in here....
I've no idea what you mean by, "...if USA can..." (have two world cities.) We don't have "world" cities; we have cities. Period. I guess you could call them American cities as, well, that's where they are. We also have many of them, and they are often visited for different reasons. Most of us have some we like and some we don't, depending on what we personally enjoy doing on our travels.

It would be interesting to know which of them you've visited, Trebor, that you'd label as "world" cities but this thread is about the UK and has already gone down the rabbit hole so no need to further complicate matters!

I've never thought of London as a "world" city - and yes I've been; twice - but more precisely the capital city of England/UK.

Andy, lovely shot of the lake. Looks like a place i'd enjoy lacing up a stout pair of shoes to explore!

Quoting goodfish

There is nothing stopping the UK from having 2 world cities you know; if USA can, so can UK, but as it is, London's a world city, Birmingham's an English city.

OK, the American gets to jump in here....
I've no idea what you mean by, "...if USA can..." (have two world cities.) We don't have "world" cities; we have cities. Period. I guess you could call them American cities as, well, that's where they are. We also have many of them, and they are often visited for different reasons. Most of us have some we like and some we don't, depending on what we personally enjoy doing on our travels.

It would be interesting to know which of them you've visited, Trebor, that you'd label as "world" cities but this thread is about the UK and has already gone down the rabbit hole so no need to further complicate matters!

I've never thought of London as a "world" city - and yes I've been; twice - but more precisely the capital city of England/UK.

Andy, lovely shot of the lake. Looks like a place i'd enjoy lacing up a stout pair of shoes to explore!

When I first left England, I went to Pennsylvania to a suburb of Philadelphia.
I got to see Center City, woo-hoo!
Then on that trip to the US, from Jersey Shore (Seaside Heights) (where I weekended), I got to see NYC.
I was very much Fresh Off The Boat then, in fact, that was all I heard that trip, I was Fresh Off The Boat in America, and I was; one day I'm in my life in Croydon, next day I'm in America.. It was a saying since I went to America to see close family so, I was with house hold units in that country from my own home in Croydon, with my brother in PA and sister in NJ.
Went to NYC...
I thought it'll be like Philadelphia (why not, I had never been to NYC then, so I didn't know, also, I turned 15 in America, so, I was 14 at the time).. I didn't know any better.
This was back when Philadelphia was America's 4th largest city, before that city in Texas over took it and Philadelphia became America's 5th, this was back in 2001 when it was America's 4th largest. When I was based outside of Philadelphia in the US, you get schooled on stuff like that driving around the city...
Got to NYC...
It felt like home.
I did not expect that; it felt like home but it wasn't, it was home but over 3, 000 miles away; but it felt like home to me.
The things I saw from my country there and from other countries that London also has, blew my mind; it was like London, but, wasn't (was NYC)...
I even walked and took the Subway!
Just like home...
(The culture shock was the car and the dependency on it and everything like that); so; no one told me it would be like that, just said we're going to NYC; the people who took us knew NYC but I didn't, I knew what it looked like from TV, but standing there, Fresh Off The Boat (not long in America, 2 weeks that trip), it felt like I was back in London that afternoon, the things I saw.

Got back to the UK aged 15, back to my native London, wondering what was London and what was England; knowing that 'whatever London is', NYC's another, and I just been to another. I wondered who the people were who made it that way, tbh.
I'd been to places in England, but no where further than Ipswich or Isle of Wight by that point, but, if NYC is like London, more than Brighton is... My God, I came back with opened eyes less wet behind the ears; to me, and my travels and existence, London is a world city and Birmingham is an English city, like New York City is a world city (and I assume Los Angeles etc (America has a few) are too).
I heard Los Angeles is better for cars though, and NYC just isn't, but until I ever go, IDK; just what I've heard about Los Angeles, but that matters not, it's a world city imo and California isn't like Los Angeles, love that we have it all though, London, England, NYC, Philadelphia, America, California, Los Angeles etc, love that we're blessed with places to see do and come from, but it is what it is; NYC opened my eyes because it was more like London than South End-on-Sea?! That... I did not expect that.
Fresh Off The Boat seeing Manhattan for the day and you're in America and then suddenly it feels like your back in London for the afternoon, threw me off/that was cool, but was a surprise for me.

You ever been to London goodfish?

[ Edit: Edited on 26 Apr 2021, 16:06 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]