UK Anyone? (Where shall we recommend in the UK)?

I'm thinking about that hotel The Land's End Hotel who boasts being right there at the end with views of the ocean, now.

I wonder, when's best to see that coastal view?

Christmas?

Summer?

[ Edit: Edited on 26 Apr 2021, 22:43 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

>I wonder, when's best to see that coastal view?

There are no guarantees but, from a weather point of view, the summer months are much more likely to have good visibility than the winter months. It also depends on your budget: the summer months, Christmas & New Year are high-season with high-season prices.

You'd need train to Penzance and then the bus from there to Land's End but be warned: Land's End is not a village. The nearest pub is a mile away and I doubt you'll find any takeaway delivery options. Other than the hotel and Penwith House (now a gift shop and art gallery) the buildings recent and part of the 'tourist attraction/theme park' which was created when a private owner outbid the National Trust.

By the way, 'bootlegging' is a US-specific term, originating during the American Civil War. We do not use that term in UK history. The correct term is 'smuggling'.

Smuggling was happening as far back as the 13th century and was particularly common in the 1700s. It involved secretly bringing luxury goods (e.g. brandy, gin, tobacco, silk, tea, lace, cloth) into the country to avoid paying the (sometimes extremely high) taxes levied on those goods.

Many coastal communities in England, Wales and Scotland were involved with smuggling gangs and most have tales of secret tunnels and storage areas. A few have been found e.g. at Robin Hood's Bay, Leigh-on-Sea, Hayle.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 07:48 GMT by leics2 ]

Quoting leics2

>I wonder, when's best to see that coastal view?

There are no guarantees but, from a weather point of view, the summer months are much more likely to have good visibility than the winter months. It also depends on your budget: the summer months, Christmas & New Year are high-season with high-season prices.

You'd need train to Penzance and then the bus from there to Land's End but be warned: Land's End is not a village. The nearest pub is a mile away and I doubt you'll find any takeaway delivery options. Other than the hotel and Penwith House (now a gift shop and art gallery) the buildings recent and part of the 'tourist attraction/theme park' which was created when a private owner outbid the National Trust. ...

Oh wow, I didn't realise it was so remote like that.

Maybe if I had a car and drove I'd like this location better.

I also lucked out and found one video on Whitby on YouTube from a couple who were on holiday from Leeds, and it's of the same hotel and room even that I plan to use for this Halloween and they in this video I found used that room for Halloween 2014.

The hotel said because of covid, food isn't happening, but... according to the majority of the reviews of this place on Yelp/Traveladvisor etc... Avoid the food it says; over priced and poorly made; so even if that aspect comes back this year for my stay, I doubt based on the reviews, that I'd be using it.
The plus sides was this hotel's location, which is all I'd want really for such a short stay.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 09:40 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

>Oh wow, I didn't realise it was so remote like that.

Maybe check out your possible visit locations on googlemaps? You can see what pubs, shops etc are there, where the nearest station is and what bus stops, if any, are nearby.

Maybe you could just spend one night at Land's End and stay in Penzance (shops, fast food, pubs, Wetherspoons, Premier Inn, beach etc) for the rest of the time?

There are only a couple of buses from Penzance through to Land's End at the moment (the theme park is closed, of course) but they'll increase as restrictions lift and during the summer months. The journey takes just under an hour.

https://www.firstbus.co.uk/cornwall/plan-journey/timetables/?operator=6&page=1&redirect=no

Thinking about Monday's dinner at the YHA in Whitby.
I see one local place that has a Chicken Kiev Pizza!
Now that's a new one on me, perhaps with all the vampires around, a little garlic isn't bad (lol); I want to try that anyway, see what it's saying/like.
Also, I might try and go custom and get the same pizza as I saw on some vampire episode of the X-Files, who also ordered pizza to the room they were using (and a vampire delivered it); Pepperoni, Green Peppers & Mushroom...
Gotta make your own fun, right?

As for wanting 2 pizzas but only having 1 stomach, I was going to get the big pizza of the TV inspired one, but, might get smaller pizzas or if I luck out, both on a big pizza in some half and half pizza option; I'd ask.

I'm guessing my lunch that day will be on the move since I'd be out and around exploring, so, fish & chips lunch.
I saw someone on YouTube before covid in Whitby suggest 'The Yorkshire English Breakfast', IDK about that or not for breakfast on Monday, I'm not saying no but, full English served in a Yorkshire pudding... Hmmmm... That's also a new one to me but I'm more excited about a Sunday Roast with Yorkshire puddings on Sunday (Or Chinese food for Sunday dinner if I can't/all good) or that Chicken Kiev Pizza on Monday, than I am about the Yorkshire English Breakfast, with Yorkshire Tea too (if I can, why not), we'd see.

It's a win win situation on the Chinese take out or Yorkshire Sunday Dinner; if I can't get served inside by then; I've always got Chinese, so, I'm happy.
However, to me, having a Yorkshire pudding while visiting Yorkshire on a Sunday for the first time is like, going to Cornwall and having a Cornish pasty.
It seems like the thing to do.

All good though if I can't, because I know I've got take out options for 2 days.

One part of me is kicking myself that I didn't manage to find anywhere for my first planned night as I left it too long to book, everywhere under the rates at The Ritz went, however, a bigger part of me is thanking my lucky stars how it turned out considering I learned post factum of the busy time of year/Goth Weekend and Halloween being a big deal out there, and how I got the last room on Halloween and it was at one of the places I was looking at to begin with; so I got as good as dates as any (Halloween arrive after sunset/Goth Weekend Sunday at the White Horse and Griffin)/All Souls Day up by St Mary's Church at the YHA, home on the 2nd.

I'd just travel light because 199 Steps and... The YHA's idea of looking after my bags before and after checkout means it fitting in a coin operated locker so, no guitar/open mic night for Halloween for me.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 12:25 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

I wonder if anyone's had a Yorkshire English Breakfast now.

>full English served in a Yorkshire pudding

That's just an invented modern dish, like filled Yorkshire puddings. Yorkshire puddings (always large rectangles which were sliced into servings) were traditionally served with gravy before a roast dinner (beef) to fill you up so you ate less meat. Later they were used for toad-in-the-hole or, sometimes, served with sugar or jam as a dessert. It's only been in the past few decades, when frozen YPs became cheap and easily available, that they've been a) round and b) served with other roast meats or filled with e.g. chilli.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 12:53 GMT by leics2 ]

I've never had a beef Sunday Roast before.

I was going to order the chicken because I saw it on their Sunday menu.
I saw beef, but, that'll be a first.

Beef Sunday Roast, wow.
I'm assuming it's like cutlets or, do I get a steak?
Hmmm lol, this intrigues me.
What is Beef Sunday Roast dinner?
I gather Yorkshire Puddings with Chicken is a no no for the purist (I'm not a purist but I may as well go native).. Depends;
Not at the hotel (because of reviews complaining about the price and quality and I thought what I wanted was a bit much @£18 for the chicken with a lot of complaints about the food and price - I don't think I'd shell out £18 for my late lunch dinner whatever time I arrive and get to eat, with those reviews)..
But let's say I want a Sunday Roast in Whitby, Yorkshire Puddings, the works.

Brainfart:
'The Whitby Yorkshire Pudding'

Fisherman's Pie but in loo of mashed potato, serve it in a big Yorkshire pudding instead!

J/k

If that's not a Whitby thing (see a lot of sea food options in town), I'd make that a thing and serve that there.

Did you know, that hotel at the Crescent in Whitby is on the Market for £1, 300, 000.00
I recognised it from not wanting to book there but the location is prime and the building is cool.
If I could, I'd buy that place and do that up, and make it something for me to do in the area, an excuse to go; and I saw the real estate in Whitby can give London a run for its money, my God, I saw smaller houses worth more than mine; there's also like a nice house for £900,000.00 when I was looking with eyes of 'if I could, I would' rather than what's affordable but, I thought I had it good, Whitby's real estate is stronger than mine, unless mine went up in value; but. day-um!

I digress, can I get a Sunday Roast Dinner in Whitby? If anyone's dined out in Whitby before doing that cuisine.
It doesn't have to be 'the best' because I'm not so egoistical, but if I were to go out for a Sunday Roast in Whitby, where's good?

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 13:53 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]

>I'm assuming it's like cutlets or, do I get a steak?

It's nothing like cutlets or steak. A beef roast is large joint of beef (silverside, sirloin, topside) which is served in fairly thin slices.

>What is Beef Sunday Roast dinner?

Exactly the same as any roast dinner (except for the Yorkshire puddings): roast meat, roast potatoes, (sometimes mashed potatoes too), vegetables e.g. carrots, broccoli, peas, gravy + whatever is the usual accompaniment: cranberry sauce for turke, bread sauce for chicken, apple sauce for pork, mustard and/or horseradish sauce for beef, mint sauce for lamb.

>I gather Yorkshire Puddings with Chicken is a no no for the purist

YPs with roast beef is traditional but now people can buy them frozen they have them with all sorts of meats.

>can I get a Sunday Roast Dinner in Whitby?

Most pubs which serve meals and hotel restaurants offer a Sunday roast but it's not necessarily available on Sunday evening. That depends on the individual pub/hotel restaurant.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 14:08 GMT by leics2 ]

Quoting leics2

YPs with roast beef is traditional but now people can buy them frozen they have them with all sorts of meats.

Or with nothing at all!

It's not like I haven't bought them and snacked on them.
Throw them into the oven for a few minutes and boom!/good to go.

Mine were probably Iceland or Tesco's though, knowing me.
It's been a while, but, I have had them.

Still, it is Yorkshire, it is Sunday.
And I've never ordered it eating out before, I'm liable to go to Yorkshire and order it twice! - one being for dinner, one being that English Breakfast version I saw for the morning after, tell people that's what I did in Yorkshire, ate Yorkshire pudding if I do that.
Maybe.

[ Edit: Edited on 27 Apr 2021, 14:06 GMT by Trebor Illusion ]