Memorial Weekend Travel

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1. Posted by Cottonwood (Respected Member 604 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

It's Memorial Weekend here in the USA. So, who's actually travelling this weekend?

Personally, I'm staying home more because of work than anything, not to mention fuel prices, over $3.20 a gallon here in Idaho, I live in a tourist town, so our money is made off you tourist not to mention the lack of workers(working 6 days this week and next, yes 2 days off in 2 weeks). Would love to actually go somewhere, but just can't.

2. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 1511 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Staying home Memorial Day and the Fourth of July. Headed to Alaska in June, including Katmai and Denali national parks. Hope to be in eastern Greenland in August and the Middle East in November.

3. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2329 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Cottonwood

not to mention fuel prices, over $3.20 a gallon here in Idaho

If I've calculated it correctly it's about 50% dearer here in the UK. You guys continue to enjoy cheap fuel through low taxes compared with most of the world.

From my perspective that's unfortunate. It encourages gas guzzling and makes switching to clean vehicles less compelling. :(

4. Posted by berner256 (Moderator 1511 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Electric vehicles are the wave of the future and it's estimated that gasoline consumption is past its peak.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-energy-outlook/u-s-crude-output-to-keep-rising-but-gasoline-demand-is-past-its-peak-eia-idUSKBN2A32ZW

Some manufacturers are speeding up target dates for their all-electric lineup. One reason is that they are being required to do so by some of their largest markets, such as California, estimated to be the world's 10th largest vehicle market.

https://www.businessinsider.com/promises-carmakers-have-made-about-their-future-electric-vehicles-2020-1#bmw-group-7

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/09/23/governor-newsom-announces-california-will-phase-out-gasoline-powered-cars-drastically-reduce-demand-for-fossil-fuel-in-californias-fight-against-climate-change/

The price of gasoline varies widely in the United States. Prices are affected, in part, by federal, state and local taxes, competition (or the lack of it) and environmental regulations. For example, in some regions gasoline must be reformulated in summer to help reduce air pollution, increasing the price. See this link:

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/price-fluctuations.php

Having traveled recently across the United States I can say that gasoline prices vary. There were among the highest in California.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/27/memorial-day-gas-prices-are-the-highest-in-7-years-and-could-stay-high.html

Many Americans don't realize their country is the world's top oil producer. Historically the U.S. consumes more than it produces but that is changing.

https://www.ig.com/en/trading-strategies/world-s-biggest-oil-producers-200722

5. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2329 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

If that means fewer wars over oil, that's another win for travellers.

6. Posted by hennaonthetrek (Respected Member 760 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting AndyF

Quoting Cottonwood

not to mention fuel prices, over $3.20 a gallon here in Idaho

If I've calculated it correctly it's about 50% dearer here in the UK. You guys continue to enjoy cheap fuel through low taxes compared with most of the world.

From my perspective that's unfortunate. It encourages gas guzzling and makes switching to clean vehicles less compelling. :(

If my converter (which is me) is correct, 3,2 USD/gallon is about 0,7 euros/liter..And currently our price is 1,7 euros/liter, which is 7,6 USD/gallon..just saying..

7. Posted by 55vineyard (Full Member 139 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

IMO, electric cars have a ways to go. I live in a suburb of LA (and yes it is correct about the annual changeover to "summer fuel" which is always right around Memorial Day). However, like many other people, I live in an apartment building and there are no electrical charging outlets. I checked on EVGO and there is ONE charging station in my entire town of about 60,000. Cost is $.27 cents per minute and I have no idea how long it takes to recharge fully.

8. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 3231 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

(4) "Many Americans don't realize their country is the world's top oil producer. Historically the U.S. consumes more than it produces but that is changing."

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Top oil producer may soon become a thing of the past. Then when the production of electric vehicles doesn't keep up with demand I am afraid we will return to importing oil again. (I think my country would have been better off continuing the pipeline and building up supplies of cheap oil first!) Right now it still takes oil to run the factories to produce electric vehicles, lubrication and support equipment like charging stations, batteries, etc. Gas driven vehicles deliver food, medical equipment, plow fields on farms and oil keeps the planes flying. I think we are putting the cart before the horse too soon!

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/2021/05/18/opinion-several-reasons-pump-brakes-electric-vehicles/5052819001/

  • Right now my government plans to purchase batteries and other material from overseas. And when these supplies are cut off where will we be then? No oil AND no electric vehicles!!

In the meantime China and India will continue polluting the world unabated and slowly becoming the primary source of commodities for North America and Europe! (An opinion.)

Maybe blimps will come back again!

Memorial Day, I will probably be working on my car. Too rainy today.

9. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2329 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting 55vineyard

However, like many other people, I live in an apartment building and there are no electrical charging outlets.

Some googling tells me that an estimated 79% of US households have off-street parking, compared to around 33% in Europe and 65% in the UK.

Ability to charge at home is not going to be such an obstacle to EV adoption there.

Price-wise, using electricity for fuel is about 10% of the cost of oil based fuels. I average 1.3p/mile, compared to about 12p when I ran a diesel. That's at UK prices. Even with low tax on petroleum it'll be an 80% saving.

On the other hand it would be possible to spend equal, if you just used expensive motorway rapid chargers run by BMW and VW at ripoff rates. Their latest scam in Europe is to take public money to build public chargers and then charge low prices to their brand cars while others pay 2x the going rate.

10. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2329 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Quoting karazyal

Right now it still takes oil to run the factories to produce electric vehicles, lubrication and support equipment like charging stations, batteries, etc. Gas driven vehicles deliver food, medical equipment, plow fields on farms and oil keeps the planes flying. I think we are putting the cart before the horse too soon!

In the meantime China and India will continue polluting the world unabated

Maybe blimps will come back again!

Actually the US factory where my car was built is fully renewably powered. Amazon have 100,000 electric delivery trucks on order. UPS are doing similarly, with a stake in van manufacturer Arrival.

In their domestic market, China make it hard to register a fossil vehicle now. Their government are making a massive switch to renewables. Much of their pollution is as the manufacturer for our products.

And yes blimps do seem to be coming back. A British company hopes to use electric ones soon for short haul on over water routes including Liverpool to Belfast and Oslo to Copenhagen. Slightly slower than planes but more space and comfort.