Missing trips on the trip map

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1. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

When I look at my trip map, some of my trips are missing from the list and from the map, however they do appear in my blog. How can I add them to the map? Thanks.

2. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5675 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

What do you mean when you say that they appear in your blog? I don't see an embedded map view in your blog, so do you mean you wrote blog entries about some destinations?

Could it be that you simply forgot to create a travel map for those destinations? I see that you posted on the travelpod migration thread, so I'm assuming that most of your blog entries were imported from travelpod? If so, I don't think the map was automatically created from that content, but rather that you created each trip on your map by hand afterward. (Although I might be wrong about that.)

If that's what's happening here, then simply go to your map, and then click on the green "+" in the top left to start creating a new trip.

If that isn't what's happening here, could you name one or two of these missing trips so I can have a closer look?

3. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for your quick reply. I may have posted in the wrong place and if so, I apologize. Yes, some of my entries have been moved from Travelpod, and they do show up in my map list. I didn't do anything special to make that happen. Some of the entries I created on Travellerspoint are on my map list but others are not and I don't know why that is. I don't recall having to do anything in the entry to have it show on the trip map.

Two that are missing:
- May 1 - 30 our trip to Africa (Cape Town, Namibia etc)
- Oct 10 - 21 our trip to Burgundy France, Barge cruise

Also, Sep 12 - 29 - Peru trip. it shows on the map but doesn't start at home (Toronto). You will see that all my trips originate there.

I guess my problem is that I have no idea how the trip map gets created. It just appeared.

Sorry if I am not being clear with my terminology. Thanks for helping!

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5675 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

No worries, the system talk forum here is very much the right place for any technical help you need with the site; I was simply unaware of all the features Peter built as part of the travelpod migration, (I wasn't a member there, so didn't go through it myself, and we simply haven't gotten many questions about it since it happened).

So, the way I understand what has happened:
Peter built an importer for your travelpod content, which created both blog entries and trips. Sometimes some necessary metadata was missing, or in a format which wasn't understood by the importer, and this has resulted in some missing destinations for your trips on the map, or in a few cases even in completely missing trips on the map. I'm assuming that the blog is complete, and that you'd like the map to basically mirror your blog.

I strongly suspect that there is no way to automatically fix that at this point. However, the travellerspoint mapping system is designed for creating trips by hand, and with the importer having done 95% of the work already, I suggest you fix the lapses by hand. At the same time that'll give you the opportunity for some further integration between your blog and the map. I'll try to walk you through the process below (with a next post coming up in an hour or two) - feel free to ask for clarification if anything is unclear - and of course you should also feel free to just experiment with the map system yourself.

[ Edit: Edited on 21 Sep 2021, 16:25 GMT by Sander ]

5. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Hi Sander. Actually all the trips that were imported from Travelpod are fine and show in the map. My issue is with the two trips I mentioned to you which I created on Travellerspoint. Why do some show up on the map and others not? I guess I can add them manually now but that doesn't solve my problem from happening in the future. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks again!

6. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Ps...I will try adding those 2 trips manually now. Thanks!

7. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5675 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

If I understand you correctly: That's because the map and the blog are separate systems here. (I'm guesing on travelpod they were basically completely integrated?)

There's many people who write blogs here without having an associated map, and vice versa. If you want to have both, you'll always need to create both - there's no automated way to get one from the other.
The benefit of this is that you get the flexibility of varying the format, e.g. you can write a single blog entry covering ten destinations on your map - or you could have ten blog entries about each of the sights you saw at what's a single destination on your map.

To tighten the integration between the two systems, you could "embed" your map on your blog (either permanently in the sidebar, or manually into individual posts), or you can automatically link your blog entries to your map by adding associated dates to both your trip stops and to your blog entries (with the "Describes travel from ... until ..." fields), which will cause links back and forth to be created at the bottom of your blog entries and in the sidebars of your map destinations.

(Similarly, your photos show up in the sidebar on your map destinations based on the associated dates - but you need to manually insert them into your blog entries.)

What made me think some destinations are missing on your imported trips, btw, is that for your 2015 Africa trip, your blog describes that you flew to Nairobi via Amsterdam, but your map shows a line straight from Toronto to Nairobi, without going via Amsterdam - and then on the way back the trip ends at Amsterdam, rather than going all the way back to Toronto.
If this is indeed shown wrong on your map, you can fix that up manually by adding Amsterdam as a destination again, and then inserting it after the first Toronto destination (there's a dropdown in "Edit Stop Details" where you can select the insertion point and so change their order) - and adding a second Toronto destination at the very end.

[ Edit: Edited on 21 Sep 2021, 16:59 GMT by Sander ]

8. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Thanks Sander! I appreciate all your help. I will have a good look at your instructions.

9. Posted by barb3389 (Respected Member 16 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Hi Sander, So for my Africa 2015 trip, I added Amsterdam as a stop, and it went to the end of my trip. I don't see where the drop down is for "Edit Stop Details" so that I can move it to the beginning of the trip. None of my trips show the return to Toronto so I guess I should add that in.

On another note, as you can see I have been adding entries for all my trips in one long blog. Do you think it would be better to do each trip as a separate blog? Is there an advantage one over the other?

10. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5675 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

Quoting barb3389

Hi Sander, So for my Africa 2015 trip, I added Amsterdam as a stop, and it went to the end of my trip. I don't see where the drop down is for "Edit Stop Details" so that I can move it to the beginning of the trip.

Click on the stop so its details show. Then in the top right of he sidebar there's a "..." menu. Click that to get to "Edit Stop Details".

The other UI thing which won't be immediately obvious is that you can click on the little colored ball between two stop to expand it into a bar, and then again on that to be able to select the mode of transport (including the ability to follow the roads in many places, though it might not always be the exact way you drove).

Quoting barb3389

On another note, as you can see I have been adding entries for all my trips in one long blog. Do you think it would be better to do each trip as a separate blog? Is there an advantage one over the other?

The blogging system on travellerspoint was basically set up with the idea of having a single blog for all your travels, the way blogs work traditionally, where the date of the blog entry (by which the blog is sorted) is the date you wrote it. It makes it easier for your subscribers when they will automatically get updates for a next trip.

However, a lot of people don't use the blogs for real-time updates while on the road, but more as an after-the-fact journal, and really like the ability to have a single blog per trip. There's a bit more hassle this way, particularly if you write entries out-of-order but want them to appear in the travel order, as you then need to manually alter the dates on all blog entries.

Both methods work well enough once you've understood the tradeoffs, and so ultimately it's personal preference.
My recommendation to you would be to stick to a single blog, given all the history you already have on there.

[ Edit: Edited on 22 Sep 2021, 07:37 GMT by Sander ]