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1091. Posted by theo1006 (Travel Guru 662 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Quoting 3Traveller

Ubirr, Kakadu National Park, Australia?

But it is not in the Northern Territory (I have not been there).

1092. Posted by theo1006 (Travel Guru 662 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Here is the road we followed:

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But some roads were closed, due to recent bushfires (photos January 2006):

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1093. Posted by Ray Bell (Budding Member 593 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

In the Kimberleys?

I've never been there...

1094. Posted by theo1006 (Travel Guru 662 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Ray Bell

In the Kimberleys?

I've never been there...

Not in the North.

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1095. Posted by hennaonthetrek (Respected Member 1573 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Yankee Hat Track...?

1096. Posted by Ray Bell (Budding Member 593 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

The sign is so familiar to me...

The trees typical eucalypts, the ashes typical residual.

Somewhere in the South-Western corner?

1097. Posted by theo1006 (Travel Guru 662 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Ray Bell

The sign is so familiar to me...

The trees typical eucalypts, the ashes typical residual.

Somewhere in the South-Western corner?

I would not call Victoria South-West!

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1098. Posted by Ray Bell (Budding Member 593 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

In the Grampians, perhaps?

1099. Posted by theo1006 (Travel Guru 662 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Ray Bell

In the Grampians, perhaps?

You got it!

The rock art is in aboriginal shelters. Aboriginees call the Grampians: Gariwerd.
The lookout on the rocks is named The Pinnacle.
And the waterfall is the MacKenzie fall.

Tour turn.

1100. Posted by Ray Bell (Budding Member 593 posts) 9w Star this if you like it!

Before I take that turn, I'd like to go back to a comment made by leics2, which I feel needs some clarification.

Relating to the rock paintings she said: "The dots make me suspect this place in Australia?"

But what have 'the dots' got to do with anything of that ancient nature? In fact, the only dots I see are down the chest and stomach and on the arms of a man, they are not dots making up the shape of the figure.

The irritation here is that 'dot painting' is a very recent phenomenon, becoming commonplace only in the last sixty years or so. Hence it wouldn't be a style used in such rock art.

Quoting from the website www.aboriginal-art-australia.com

Dot painting originated over 50 years ago, back in 1971. Geoffrey Bardon was assigned as an art teacher for the children of the Aboriginal people in Papunya, a small community, 240km north west of Alice Springs. He noticed whilst the Aboriginal men were telling stories they would draw symbols in the sand.

Moreover, that site explains that:

Aboriginal artists abstracted their paintings to disguise the sacred designs so the real meanings could not be understood by Westerners.

There were no Westerners around to delude when those paintings were put into the caves.

Other things now considered to be 'traditional' among aboriginals are equally new. TV star Ernie Dingo, for instance, instigated and popularised the now all too universal 'traditional' smoking ceremony and then there is the 'aboriginal flag' which came into being in 1971.

In this country we are being attacked on all sides to accept these non-traditional things as something we must almost worship. 'Welcome to country' speeches at the beginning of sporting events and broadcasts thereof, aboriginal women being 'elders' in societies in which women were never allowed to take any lead and so on.

And before you start thinking I'm on an anti-aboriginal campaign of some time, please consider that my great-aunt once told me that she and her sisters had to be very careful not to be seen doing the wrong thing, they eyes of the community were carefully watching for error among half-caste people. Yes, I have aboriginal background.

Rant over... I'll go look for a picture to start things off with.

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