Editing route segment: annoying fade to full trip on hover

Travel Forums System Talk Editing route segment: annoying fade to full trip on hover

1. Posted by Sander (Moderator 6049 posts) 4w Star this if you like it!

I just tried editing a couple of route segments of one of my large maps (fixing up boat travel), and had a pretty annoying experience with it. I click "+ Add" for the custom route, see the button change to "+ Save", move the mouse over to the main map to start editing - and as soon as my mouse crosses any other route segment displayed on the map (which is extremely likely to happen when trying to put in a custom route for any long trip), the left bar fades back to the full trip listing.

Once I understood what was happening, I deduced I could continue editing the route segment until it was as desired, and _then_ go back to the edit part in the left bar to save - but I suspect most people won't manage to figure that out.

I see this happening in current stable Firefox on Linux. I've tried several trips, and both ways of selecting the segment (clicking on the existing line on the map, and clicking on the transport icon in the left bar), all with the same behaviour - as soon as the left bar shows the route options, hovering any other segment causes the fade back to full trip.

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Completely unrelated, and minor: I wish I could select the road-following behaviour of "Drive", without my transport option having to be "Car". There are quite a few segments I did with tour busses, so want the bus icon, but where only car routing information is available.

Also, I think it makes more sense for the default option for Bus (e.a.?) transport to be a straight line, rather than a curved line, leaving the latter only (?) for plane travel? (Or maybe the distinction should be for the length of the segment, rather than its mode of transport? Either way, I feel like I have to fight the current defaults, rather than them working for me...)

[ Edit: Edited on 18 Jun 2024, 08:42 GMT by Sander ]

2. Posted by Peter (Admin 7250 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

I spent some time fixing up bugs in the maps today.

This one should be resolved. Both the annoying hover effect while editing a custom route as well as the default lines being curved all the time.

It is possible to have the car lines on for bus routes, though certainly not intuitive. To achieve this,

1. Set the route as you do now. It will switch to car.
2. Go into the destination stop, change the mode there to what you want it to be. It will keep the car route, but change the name of the mode.

You can also change the mode in the Planner view using the little icon in there and it won't update the route.

I fully acknowledge that neither of those methods are intuitive..

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5. Posted by Sander (Moderator 6049 posts) 3w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for the fixes! I can confirm it works a lot more smoothly now.

Quoting Peter

It is possible to have the car lines on for bus routes, though certainly not intuitive. To achieve this,

1. Set the route as you do now. It will switch to car.
2. Go into the destination stop, change the mode there to what you want it to be. It will keep the car route, but change the name of the mode.

That's how I remembered it, but when I did that last week, it changed the route to a curved line. And indeed, testing it just now, it changes to a straight line on step 2. :(

The workaround of changing the icon via the planner does work.

Two further improvement request:
After you've edited a route segment, the entire trip gets shown, and so the map zooms out to show the entire trip. Chances are however that I'll want to edit a nearby segment, and if I want to do that for many segments, the zooming out gets pretty annoying. Probably it should just retain the current zoom. (And restore the left bar with a view that highlights the current segment? or the next stop?)

And while I'm on zoom behaviour anyway: when you click on a transport icon or route segment, the map zooms to a default zoom level to show that entire segment. However, for short segments (< 50km), that zoom level tends to be more zoomed out than necessary (maybe taking different screen resolutions into account? or hopefully a leftover from an old map implementation which couldn't zoom in so far?) - if it's the second, start taking the current zooming capabilities into account? otherwise: maybe do a test on the click: if both start and end destination are on screen, and the the current view is zoomed in further than the proposed zoom, just retain the current view?

[ Edit: Edited on 24 Jun 2024, 09:11 GMT by Sander ]