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1. Posted by jenny12345 (Budding Member 12 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

We almost have all the details done for our Europe trip, but I was shocked when our travel agent here gave me some of the quotes.
So..........before handing over the (choke, choke,) the visa card I thought I would ask all you experts out there.
Perhaps we should wait and purchase the actual Krakow-Prague ticket in Europe? And would the Eurorail pass be worth it considering we are only using it Paris-Provence and again from Perpignon France to southern Spain. Any help much appreciated??? These are the fares quoted to me.Rail
1- Aug 25 Depart Krakow at 10:50pm, arrive Prague at 7:25am
$192.00CAD per person -2nd class
Price includes seat reservation fee
$14.00 Rail protection? This protects your ticket from being lost or stolen.

2- France and Spain Saverpass
4 days in 2 months
$314.00CAD per person -2nd class
$35.00CAD per extra day
$23.00CAD Rail Protection? This protects your pass from being lost or stolen.
***Please note seat reservations are not included on this pass. Reservations are required on all TGV, Thalys and AVE trains. Reservations can be made while in Europe at any ticket counter.

2. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Thats waaaay too expensive.

Buy Krakow - Prague in Krakow. And DON'T get the direct trains. If you change at the border (you walk about 100metres between stations) its even cheaper still, although you will have to travel by day. Be aware that the Krakow-Prague is the single Night train in Europe that gets targetted by pickpockets/thieves more than any other, so if you do use it, be careful and take a couchette (ideally) or sleeper (even safer, but not really worth the extra cost) and LOCK THE DOOR!!

As for whether the pass is worth it, my gut reaction says no, but it might be. Spanish trains are reasonably cheap if you are flexible - prices on the same journey vary depending upon time of day, demand and class of train -

If you book ahead, you can get discounted Frence TGV travel. Bear in mind the extra note a well about reservations - all long distance Spanish trains, French TGVs and cross border Fra-Spa trains require extra reservations, which will cost a chunk more.

3. Posted by jenny12345 (Budding Member 12 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Wow, thank you for this valuable info. Its very valuable. So does the non direct route (i.e. crossing the border into Czech, and taking a train from there) take as long as 8 hours as well? It it appears to only be 313 miles? If we wait to get the tickets in Krakow can we get the couchette there too.

4. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Yes, you can get the couchette anywhere.

In Eastern Europe, the trains don't run that quickly, so times are longer, and theres normally a fair wait whilst they fart around at the border.

Couldn't tell you the times (or even which border stations to aim for off the top of my head, although my gut reaction says Cesky Tesin? is one of them), but guessing about 8-9 hours whichever way.

If you ask in any hostel in Krakow, they will tell you - many even write on the wall or noticeboard - what the cheapest way is and the relevant timings